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Boy are they going to be disappointed
Work camps are a job.
Maybe democrats should have been talking about black jobs like Trump did. What is a black job anyhow? Is that what all those text messages that went out to black people when Trump was announced the winner of the election we're about? Head hunters looking for new recruits to work in the exciting new field of...... checks notes, uh, picking cotton.
Fuck people are ignorant.
There's still time for them to hop in the strawberry fields after the deportations, then unionize and strike and demand better wages before Musk gets rid of OSHA and collective bargaining
Most Latinos do not work in the fields. Many of us have been here for several generations. There are many types of Latinos. (Disclaimer: I voted, phonebanked, and canvassed for Kamala.)
I was more trying to say that most of the jobs Trump will create are the absolute shit-ass cash jobs no one wanted to do in the first place, after he does his undocumented mass deportation stuff, and boiled the sentiment down to a colloquialism
OK, fair enough.
I really wanna be wrong about this but when companies start stockpiling pre-tariff stuff and moving manufacturing in, it's gonna show up as a lot of expense and might plunge us into a correction and really dry up the job market. Lots of companies are wringing out earnings beats with revenue misses thanks to layoffs and stuff like that so it's kinda losing steam to begin with.
I've been trying to think why a lot of bajillionaires are sitting on so much cash in this kind of environment, and aside from the market generally looking overpriced/slim pickings, that's the only other thing I can envision
Black voters went from
9 Biden - 1 Trump
to
8 Harris - 2 Trump.
What got Trump elected was white people. This article tries to paint a narrative which does not exist.
If it were up to black and latinos Harris would be president.
Still twice the amount of votes compared to the last election, which leaves me with my mouth open.
It’s like voting for the wolf when you are part of a flock of sheep because the other sheep you could elect instead is not exactly the way you picture the perfect sheep.
What got trump elected was PPL NOT VOTING.
TRUMP GOT THE SAME AMOUNT OF VOTES EVERY YIME
So what got Trump elected was the Dems not listening to voters and losing them?
What got Trump elected was Democrats kicking out their base to make room for Liz Cheney and refusing to stop a genocide.
I'm not blaming white men for Trump winning. I'm blaming Democrats.
Interesting! I don't think you're making it up, but do you have a source for that? I'd like to learn more.
Hi, not comment-op, but... Here's one of the first set of exit polls to look over: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls
Though it's a little too early for real analysis, since ballots are still being counted. Really the most interesting questions are things like: in tipping-point states (like PA, MI, WI, maybe GA or NC) how did the vote/turnout shift? That sort of analysis takes a bit longer, though, so we're stuck with clickbait articles like the one posted above.
Here is one suggesting even higher numbers of black Democrat voters https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/6/us-election-2024-results-how-black-voters-shifted-towards-trump
They're trying to group them all together, and that's not fair for this one. Around 78% of black men voted for Harris, as opposed to the around 44% of Latino men. They're trying to distract us from the fact that a good portion of this was from white voters by mentioning Latinos anyway. Like, "How did we vote facisim. We didn't vote for him." That's all I see articles for. Where are the articles breaking down why over 50% of white women voted for their own subjugation? They're so used to black people being the scape goat, they throw us in there even when we had little impact on it.
In some polls I've seen before the election, the top item for people -- this is in general -- who said that they would vote for Trump was the economy.
But you can break that down more than "economy". "Economy" can mean a lot of things. How the stock market is doing. Unemployment. Inflation.
And when people were asked about that, in the polling data I saw, prices were the top concern.
I commented well before the election and pointed out that inflation is extremely unpopular with publics. In a study -- and this is an old one, but apparently a well known one -- that looked at the public in Germany, the US, and Brazil, the public -- and particularly in Germany and the US -- said that they'd rather have a recession than inflation. That is significant, because in contrast, the mainstream economic position is that it's preferable for a country to have inflation than a recession.
I also listened to some interviews of people voting Trump, and a lot of people said "I was better-off under Trump than Biden".
My guess is that you can probably chalk a considerable amount of this up to:
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Not understanding that inflationary policies weren't simply adopted in isolation, but to avoid a recession resulting from COVID-19.
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That it's normally considered that inflationary policy is preferable to a recession.
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That the Trump administration also adopted inflationary policy.
I also remember reading some stuff going well back saying that in general, people tend to credit the President pretty directly for whatever the present state of the economy is. If there are issues, they put it at the feet of the President, and if it's going well, they put it at the feet of the President...even if the President didn't have much to do with it (or if it was actually policies from a prior administration that took time to have effect). So to some extent, the politics of being the President always, not just in a situation with a fair bit of inflation as we had stemming from COVID-19, have to do with that voter attribution to the President of the short-term state of economy.
I'd also add that political organizations know this and will -- not always honestly -- aim to exacerbate that take.
Donald Trump
stated on September 7, 2024 in a rally in Mosinee, Wis.:
Vice President Kamala Harris “cast the tiebreaking votes that caused the worst inflation in American history, costing a typical American family $28,000.”
So if one wants to avoid the executive being unreasonably penalized for -- or taking credit for -- the economic state of affairs, then there's probably a hard communication problem that hasn't been solved for decades and decades that needs to happen.
a hard communication problem
I think it's a lot like tech support. End users don't care about the details. They just want to hear: I see your problem, and here's how quickly I'm going to fix it.
There are lots of people out there who think that inflation means how much prices have risen in some recent period of their memory. If something that cost $3 in 2018 is now $6 and you tell them inflation is at 2%, they will be completely bewildered as to how this can be true. There are also tons of people who don’t understand why deflation is bad or undesirable. If you can’t tell who is lying to you because you have no idea how the economy works, you’re just going to choose the one you remember as being better.
Going to be some well fed leopards next year when Trump starts deporting them.
As we transition into full-blown tyranny, and the out-group begins to grow, I’m trying to educate myself about how to cope with it, survive and maybe even resist. I have found that discussions among black Americans online are extremely enlightening in this regard, presumably because they have existed forever in a precarious state, something like that which many more of us are about to be thrust. I’m not interested in scapegoating black males over this election. This happened because too many Americans are dumb fucks, ruled by emotions, and gullible as hell. End of story.
Ah yes, the usual blaming of minorities for all the democrats that didn't show up.
saying democrats didn't show up is pure cope. They showed up, no one else did.
I'm not sure in what context you mean, here. Are you saying that there are just less democrats than republicans or are you just talking shit?
the fuck is gonna happen to the price of [whatever the fuck] when there's 20% tariffs on everything, a shortage of labor, and the fed issues 8 trillion in bonds?
Weimar-levels of hyperinflation, that's what.
Cute that were under the assumption people understood how tariffs worked.
I guess the work camps will count as a job. Good job!
You gon learn today...
Lol. I ain't touching this shit with a sky track forklift with a 20 ft boom
Work will set them free unfortunately
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