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PLA Print Degraded Over Time (discuss.tchncs.de)
submitted 5 days ago by cameron@discuss.tchncs.de to c/3dprinting@lemmy.world
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This was an ornament I printed roughly 6 years ago. Being a Christmas ornament it spent most of those 6 years stored in my roof space.

Being in Australia this would have been subject to average temperatures of 30 to 35 degrees c but also peaks across summer approaching 70 degrees c. Also in high humidity.

The PLA crumbles into tiny pieces at the softest touch.

I thought it was interesting that PLA would start to break down in these conditions.

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[-] Zikeji@programming.dev 16 points 5 days ago

60C is when PLA starts to warp, but even lower is when it starts to degrade. 6 years is more than enough for this level of degradation even in a less volatile environment.

[-] cameron@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 days ago

It’s interesting to me the reported natural feature of PLA to be biodegradable. The state it ends up in these conditions almost seems worse for the environment like micro plastics.

[-] huginn@feddit.it 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

PLA is widely used as a medical plastic and its normal decomposition is into lactic acid.

Even if it is just being atomized down into smaller and smaller particles it's safer for you than any other common plastic.

The colorants added are the only risk

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Not entirely true as there are no industry standards for PLA. Lots of manufacturers add things they don't put on the label. Especially in the variants like PLA+ and High Speed PLA.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

After reading a bit, it seems that you are correct. Under natural conditions PLA wont actually turn into non toxic compounds at all. Biodegradable just means that it can be theoretically done. The conditions necessary for it are however only available in industrial, heated and controlled composting systems. Without those conditions it will break apart but it will stay bad for the environment on a chemical level.

Just look up "PLA biodegradable test" on a search engine or youtube and you will find plenty of people that tested this.

[-] IMALlama@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

It will decompose, but only it a hot compost pile.

To some extent, this means large scale composting, but you could theoretically do it at home if you live somewhere with four seasons (specifically fall) and have trees that drop leaves on your property or nearby. Let your grass get a bit taller as the trees start turning and mulch/bag the grass and leaf mixture. Bonus points if you have a ratio of 30 carbon (brown stuff) to 1 nitrogen (green stuff) by weight. "Normal" composting into. This is why big piles of fresh mulch get pretty warm and stream in the middle.

I don't know what it would take to break down PLA in compost, but suspect it would take more time than a typical home pile if you manage to get it hot. It would probably be benefit from shredding to speed things up, as would the rest of the stuff in a typical compost pile. Amusingly, your PLA is probably ripe for getting whacked with a hammer, or a hammer mill.

[-] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

average temperatures of 30 to 35 degrees c but also peaks across summer approaching 70 degrees c. Also in high humidity.

Oh Australia... 🫠

[-] coaxil@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

Tis fucking hot and fucking humid, well here in bris anyhow.

[-] Draegur@lemm.ee -2 points 5 days ago

it's a starch-based polymer, isn't it? it will be readily metabolized by the various ubiquitous species populating our biosphere. i suppose it's a good thing. possibly the only microplastic that doesn't suck

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago

it will be readily metabolized by the various ubiquitous species populating our biosphere. i suppose it's a good thing. possibly the only microplastic that doesn't suck

Not really, it is considered compostable in industrial composting conditions. It will not degrade at a reasonable timeframe in natural conditions and will basically just remain micro plastic.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 days ago

yep sadly PLA being ok for the environment is a big ol myth unless it is either turned back into filament or properly recycled / industrially composted

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