The Death of Search | The Atlantic (www.theatlantic.com)

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago

Sometimes I add something like "blog" before:2019 to my searches because I want "old" google and not their shiny newer profoundly shitty search. Plus I tend to really like blog results. Wwithout before:2019 google is incredibly insistent in "helping" me by mostly (or entirely) ignoring the word "blog" even if it's in double quotes.

[-] urmums401k@hexbear.net 43 points 1 week ago

Letting corporations control how we access information was always a mistake. Historians will curse us, and the evidence will be a hole.

There must be consequences for the fuckers who did this. They have names and addresses.

[-] Clippy@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

huh thanks for the tip, being on the younger side i've always only ever used the main corporation websites - never really know how to venture outside the main lot

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

Google calls such stuff advanced operators. They used to be fantastic tools. But the problem now is that google occasionally, intentionally breaks some of them to be "helpful". And you can't disable such help.

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

Paywalled.

[-] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 week ago

https://archive.ph/JmWP0

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

Thanks!

[-] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 week ago

I use ChatGPT to learn all kinds of stuff. I say it's replaced 50% of my searches. Not that it's always right, but neither is all the blogspam.

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago

jfc please have some dignity, you know you can do better than that

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago

This restaurant has a terrible food safety rating so I just eat off their floor.

[-] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 week ago

Say how and I'll do it. Kagi+ChatGPT is getting me the quickest answers.

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Literally any thing that isn't trained on blogspam or notorious for making up shit. You're basically using a magic 8-ball to "learn" it just repeats what you say back at you. Its useless for research.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

Kagi+ChatGPT is getting me the quickest answers.

If a human "expert" was a known liar and fantasist who never provided sources or footnotes - would you listen to them? And if you did - why?

[-] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

Does listening to them ulitmately get you to the correct answer more quickly on average than not? If so, why aren't you talking to them?

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

"I wave my arms blindly in the dark and every so often I touch something before tripping on the furniture"

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago

chatgpt is trained on all the blogspam.

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think people are overly critical - it is alright for some things, and it has gotten things right for me before, but generally I have to spend so much time double checking that it's right that it isn't worth the time. If it gets a detail wrong 10-15% of the time, then I have to check it every time.

I do find it useful for admin tasks though.

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