I believe one of the killer features is the ability to aggregate different communities.
Multi-communities? Really? 😍
Yes really. Here's an example - see the communities at the top, and hashtags at the bottom.
On second thought, that's not a fantastic example of categories, so here and here are better ones.
There's a lot that is not yet implemented in PieFed, like no preview feature for writing messages or user tagging (e.g. @openstars@piefed.social does not send me a notification), yet it already has several features that Lemmy does not - it's so exciting to watch it develop!:-)
Codebase is clean too.
I actually don't like that feature cause it's not something the user chooses, it's up to the dev or admin (not sure which).
Faster?
Speed is literally not even a concern, the only thing I want more of is people. Make it easier to sign up or something
I mean it connects to lemmy, kinda like mbin.
Federation speed is a serious backbone concern. It aligns with perceived reliability. If it seems like comments votes or posts aren't "going where they're supposed to" then people can lose faith in the platform
In my experience it's very snappy, and with minimal JavaScript (if at all). Hell, it's even somewhat usable in Lynx, though I couldn't sign in.
Lynx - Now that's a name I have not heard in a long long time.
I can log in with lynx... It sets a few cookies and then I'm logged in... Though I haven't tried signing up, if you mean sign up as in register a new account.
Might have been a user error then! Admittedly I did not try very hard.
There's also a low bandwidth mode available. It's an impressive platform in general.
And uses less data - helpful for using a mobile data plan. Those numbers shown in the article are all the more impressive even for sending 5x more posts on the home screen than Lemmy's default, even while still sending >4/5 less data - i.e. it's more like sending roughly only 1/25th the data per post, if I'm reading that right.
mahn kbin is dead. long live mbin. at least use more recent stats
Hello from Piefed! I was a regular on Lemmy and Mastodon for years, but I migrated to Piefed because it is much more lightweight.
The features page shows some differences between Piefed and Lemmy - https://join.piefed.social/features/ Mostly, I appreciate that it is written in Python, so more developers in the community may easily understand and contribute to the code base, and that it is so lightweight. When I connect to the internet I always have to consider data caps, so it's a relief when websites make a genuine effort to be efficient. I can reliably browse the fediverse through Piefed even when my access is throttled to 50Kbps download.
Sounds great!
But I suspect that the Lemmy backend is faster since it's in Rust. Also Rust codebases are much easier to maintain since it's a strict language.
The lightweight claim is a bit of a stretch. You're counting content that gets cached in the browser.
Well, regardless what tech stack makes it possible, when my phone data is throttled to ~55kbps Piefed is perfectly usable and most sites are not.
Curious to see if people haven't heard about it, Piefed seems to be mentioned quite often
Tbf you're on Lemmy 24/7 so you'll hear about things much earlier than many others. I've also been on Piefed for a minute.
But I've come to understand how slowly knowledge propagates through large numbers of people, at least via this medium. First with the APIcaplyse, when I realized that virtually nobody on reddit had even heard of the API changes, let alone moving to Lemmy. And then on Lemmy itself with various major events/dramas that people were totally unaware of until much later.
Piefed is developing rapidly and seems like a worthy alternative to Lemmy and Mbin. The private voting feature is also really cool.
No need to be on Lemmy that much, just watching !fedimemes@feddit.uk you would see Piefed mentioned every week
Same here, on !fediverse@lemmy.world
I'm on Lemmy all the time and I didn't know that community. But thanks for sharing, this is what I'm talking about.
Yeah but usually it's just "try piefed", with a smug tone so it's kind of hard to take people seriously.
Aside from that, adoption becomes a hassle for everything fediverse due to the whole pick your server thing, I went from fmhy to nsfw to dbzero to cafe... I'd be so happy if picking a server would not require so much trial and error.
I would curious to see if you could access piefed using Voyager for Lemmy as a front end. It’s about the only decent app for Lemmy that doesn’t squash things on my iPhone mini with text zoom enabled
You can't, no. PieFed and Lemmy are operating in similar spaces, but are completely different architecturally. PieFed doesn't yet have an API. Unlike Lemmy (and a lot of other modern web platforms), it doesn't need one to operate, so copying Lemmy's to the extent that you'd be able to plug in something like Voyager would be overkill. It would probably also be against the TOS for Voyager (Jerboa actively prevents it's use with anything other than Lemmy, even if the API is the same).
To be completely honest, if you want a healthy 3rd party app ecosystem, the official UI and backend need to be completely separated with a publicly documented API.
Biggest win with Lemmy, and biggest fluff with kbin. And it shows when it comes to 3rd party app ecosystem. People wanted to build apps for kbin….
Private votes sounds pretty cool
So is it a fork of Lemmy?
it's inspired by lemmy but seeks to addres; community concerns stemming from that programming is a form of communication and the things the lemmy project owners value as messaging are vile
I'm not sure what that even means. Does that mean it's right wing? If software can even be right wing or left wing.
Two of the developers are scary communist tankies. And no, I don't think software can be right wing or left wing. Maybe if it's centralized, like X, but the developers of Lemmy can't interfere with Lemmy servers they don't admin, and it's open source (lots of other people contribute to the Lemmy source code at this point and so would be able to spot things added in).
Personally, I think the right way to advertise other competitors on the fediverse isnt to fear monger about the developers, but to say what features the alternatives have that might be good. Also, it is nice to have competitors, so also just to advertise based on the availability of alternative options, since it is nice to have those just in case.
The Lemmy devs? I'm aware of this. I'm a right winger and that doesn't affect me nearly as much as the far left communities of Lemmy users.
The features are all I care about. Eventually I'll find the right people here and be able to build the communities I want.
They must have been talking about the Lemmy devs (the main PieFed dev is a lefty but no-one has ever accused him of being a tankie). To give you an idea: piefed.social blocks lemmygrad and hexbear, but it also block hilariouschaos (set up by the old exploding-heads guys).
Ooh I didn't know that the exploding-heads guy did anything else.
Why block instances though? I've never been a fan of that, I just let people block me.
I couldn't really do justice to his opinions about things like that. I just replied because I recognised your name, and wanted to let you know that the software / instance wouldn't be a good fit for you.
Well, IDK. I'm right wing. Exploding Heads definitely at least leaned right, and found myself arguing with those people a lot of the time, but I do prefer right wing lunacy to left wing lunacy most of the time.
I’m a right winger and that doesn’t affect me nearly as much as the far left communities of Lemmy users.
I am surprised that you have survived this long. I am rather moderate left, and even after blocking the main extreme left instances, I still question my presence when I see the amount of far left populism that gets acclaimed here.
I am rather moderate left
blocking the main extreme left instances
Sounds like you're plenty interested in hearing from conservatives. 🤔
Anyone who tries to express themselves politely and rationally is welcomed.
So marginalized groups have to be careful not to offend your sensibilities when arguing for their existence, got it. Honestly par for the course with centrists.
Can I access it via Eternity app? Is it basically another instance?
It's not compatible with apps yet, unfortunately.
Though there's a feature request for that where db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com said that he would be excited to work on!:-)
Does it support importing Lemmy subscriptions?
Yes. I added that myself a couple months ago 😎
edit: you have to export your lemmy user settings. that comes down as a .json file. Then you make a piefed user, and there is an import settings in the piefed user profile.
it will also attempt to import any blocks/bans of users/communities you had in the lemmy settings. But if the instance of piefed you are on does not 'l\know' about those users/communities it wont add them to bans list. But of course that means the community in question is not federated to the instance you are on, so half-dozen-of-one-six-of-the-other really.
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