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If anyone can explain how it can be 3.3 ounces in the new can and 3.6 in the old while grams and millilitres remain the same i would love to know.

The damn can is also ever so slightly smaller you can see it very well but you can feel it and measure it

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[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 days ago

mL is volume. oz is weight or mass. It is entirely possible for only one to change.

It is TRICKIER for oz to change, but the mass g not to change. This can only mean that the weight changed, but the mass did not. Presumably, this is from an exoplanet with an approximately Earth-like gravity.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The metric remained the same. By volume and mass.

The freedom units are conforming to their alternative facts.

[ OZ can be weight (fractions of a pound) or liquid ounces (fractions of a ...quart, gallon, pint, whatever nonsensical unit is used) ]

Either way, that label is a mess.

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 29 points 3 days ago

By the power of a quick search, I'm told that 3.6 OZ is actually 102 grams, while 3.3 OZ is 93.6. 96 grams is 3.38 OZ, so one has to assume they're starting from grams and rounding down (even though they'd be justified to report 3.4 instead, honestly). It's not fluid ounces because that'd be somewhere in the region of 5, again according to search.

So most likely, it's a typo of some sort, or proof that non-metric systems should be banned by all humanity. This is also how European basketball players grow several centimeters when they start playing in the NBA.

Interestingly, pictures of the product online alternately show 104 and 96 grams. Volume wouldn't have to change, because you can just pressurize the can less to include less product. Oh, and yet another search tells me the reported net weight should not include the weight of the propellant.

Also, what are you doing buying Beckham's spray deodorant? Multiple times? I mean...

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

proof that non-metric systems should be banned by all humanity

DON'T TAKE AVOIRDUPOIS FROM ME

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 11 points 3 days ago

Yeah the whole situation makes no sense.

As far as buying multiples im alllergic to something in some deodorants and i get rashes under my arms. This one hasn't so I have been using it for over 10 years. I have many many cans in the cupboardbecausewr buy them when they come half price.

My wife likes the smell I like the smell too.

And as far as I know it's not evil right?

[-] 200ok@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Some deodorants irritate me as well.

I eventually found out that it was a "72 hour" deodorant that I was reapplying every 24 hours (after my shower where, I assure you, I was washing my pits) and it was building up. It was so itchy and I'd scratch until I was raw.

Now I only wear it every other day and use a "natural" deodorant in between.

Might be different for you, obvs

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 18 hours ago

You might be on to something there, i used to use the sports oriented ones that were longer lasting.

Ah well this one does the job and my wife loves it cause she associates the smell with me so I can't change haha

[-] 200ok@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Clearly the winning choice 😁

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 10 points 3 days ago

Oh, no, I'm mostly joking. It's just... celebrity "lifestyle brands", you know? Or maybe you don't know. I'm certainly the type of person that buys "deodorant" brand deodorant, I may be the outlier here.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 6 points 3 days ago

Nah had no idea when i first bought it. It was just cheap and it didn't hurt me haha.

I've never even thought about the David beckham relevance at all

[-] Zier@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago

Just to add; it's clearly measured by weight because 150 ml is 5 fluid ounces. And my comment, buy unscented deodorant and an actual bottle of cologne, it smells nicer.

[-] adam_y@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

The "e" before the weight means estimated.

If I had to guess, they might be giving an upper and lower number to cover a range and their backs.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 9 points 3 days ago

Ah I didn't know that about the "e"

You might be onto something

[-] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 days ago

Depending on what it is it could be just more compressed as liters is volume but oz is weight. That said they’re both 96 grams so the only thing that “makes sense” is if one was weighed under different gravity

[-] remotelove@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Being weighed under different conditions is possible, but it's not significant enough for corporate greed.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 8 points 3 days ago

Pretty sure potato chip companies go to the effort

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

People are sometimes shocked, when I open potato chips by cutting with scissors under the logo, but that's usually where the chips actually start.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 5 points 3 days ago

This graph makes me uncomfortable.

[-] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

One was clothes on, the other was clothes off. Obviously clothes off weight is the only accurate measurement.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 5 points 3 days ago

Yeah I can't make heads or tails of it.

I just kind of assume they updated the one they're most familiar with and didn't adjust the other too.

The can is definitely skinnier though

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

... Or the specific density of the material inside the can is different.

The old formulation was more dense, so it weighed more at the same volume.

Or the volume (in mL) is the volume of the can, and not the uncompressed volume of the marital inside the can, and they just lowered the pressure of the substance inside the can as shrinkflation.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

96 g is neither 3.3 nor 3.6 oz, lmao

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 5 points 3 days ago

It's not? My calculator says 3.3863 oz. If they were forced to correct the incorrect 3.6 they weren't going to go with 3.4 and risk it getting corrected again.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

3.38 is 3.4 rounded to one decimal place or three significant figures, there's no ambiguity again. If anything 3.3 has a risk of being corrected to 3.4.

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 2 points 3 days ago

Sure, but most customer protection laws around the world say you can't round up. If you say the customer gets 3.4 oz, you need to give them at least 3.4 oz.

Plus I doubt they are that accurate when they produce this kind of stuff, that's usually +-10% without impacting the end product.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Sure, but most customer protection laws around the world say you can't round up

Oh, I didn't know that, makes sense.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah imagine if they didn't, all companies would round up to short change everyone

[-] stormesp@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Maybe it just had an incorrect value and they were forced to correct it?

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah and fixed it with the can update perhaps.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 3 points 3 days ago

I wish I had a full original can to do some research of my own.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

you'd have more weight if you had more liquid in the can. The can probably contains an emulsifying agent that was changed, altering how much liquid you'd need in the same volume to guarantee the aerosol effect worked.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 5 points 3 days ago

But Oz and g's are both weight measurements

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

yes and no, fluid ounces are volume.

"Is 1 fl oz the same as 1 oz? Both fluid ounces and ounces represent a unit of measurement, but they are quite different. Fluid ounces, as the name might imply, are specifically meant to measure volume (often of liquid ingredients like water), while ounces measure weight, usually of solid ingredients like all-purpose flour."

aerosol cans typically display fluid ounces. You can google it.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Where as ml is volume and g is mass.

So either way Oz is portrayed here one of the other two would have to adjust?

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