submitted 1 year ago by samokosik@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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Hello, some people have told me that it is possible to see lemmy posts from mastodon. To me it makes a lot of sense to have a single app for whole fediverse. However, mastodon is not doing a good job at this.

Each time I look at my mastodon home feed, it is spammed with completely random posts from lemmy which do not even show up in the organised view wefwef/memmy provide. Is there any way how to take care of this?

For lemmy I have found wefwef and memmy to be actually quite good. Interface is simple and easy to use, posts look organised. On mastodon it just feels far worse, especially with lemmy connected.

Are there any alternatives to the official mastodon app that would allow better integration with lemmy? To me it seems logical to have a single app for both platforms as they use the same principle.

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[-] cerevant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Mastodon and Lemmy both use the same underlying protocol, but are fundamentally different types of content with different paradigms for interacting with it.

There are folks working on combining the two into an app or platform - Kbin is one - but mashing the content together is going to give the garbage UX you describe.

[-] Devious_Thoughts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, in Mastodon I follow specific accounts that I like to hear from.

In Lemmy I'm in communities to get the latest info on a topic, like the composting community I just found lol

[-] cerevant@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Mastadon is about who is sharing, Lemmy is about what is being shared.

[-] samokosik@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I get your point. I see the way of posting is quite different. mastodon has simpler posts.

So if there was a feature to interact via one app with both platforms, it would make more sense to approach this from the lemmy perspective

To be honest, I do not even know what kbin is

[-] cerevant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Kbin is a Lemmy clone that has a mastodon client built in. It uses slightly different terminology (e.g. magazines instead of communities) but is otherwise functionally the same.

[-] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[-] matt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The reason this doesn't work so well is that Lemmy communities are ActivityPub groups, which is not a feature the Mastodon has really implemented - right now you just follow the group as a user and it boosts all the posts to you.

However, Mastodon plans to do groups in their next major update, and this will most likely make the integration much nicer.

[-] what_is_a_name@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Isn’t that the differentiating feature of Kbin? Ability to both interact with Lemmy. Immunities and mastodon microblogging?

I am new. I may be wrong.

[-] pglpm@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Personally I'm still quite confused on how Lemmy and Mastodon interact...

[-] leraje@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Two different types of software - Lemmy is a link aggregator like reddit, Mastodon is a microblogging service like twitter.

But, underpinning each of them (and various other types of software too) is something called ActivityPub. This is a protocol - i.e. its a method of passing information from one place to another. Just like SMTP is a protocol for passing emails and FTP is a protocol for transferring files.

So just like GMail uses SMTP to send/receive email, so does Hotmail or Yahoo etc etc. And just as Lemmy uses ActivityPub, so does Mastodon.

What this means - in theory - is that content can travel between any piece of software that is underpinned by ActivityPub. And in fact, this already happens. Mastodon users see Lemmy communities (e.g. c/fediverse) as just another user. So they can follow Communities and Post to them. Lemmy can't do that at the moment because it is nowhere near as mature a product as Mastodon.

The other issue (as has already been mentioned) is that Lemmy and Mastodon (and PixelFed, PeerTube etc) all have different types of content. Lemmy content usually has a much greater word count per post for example. It's like posting a WordPress blog post to Twitter.

These issues will get resolved with time, the Fediverse itself is relatively new. Lemmy is very new.