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Think about it, Google Maps is (I think) the biggest collection of map data and information on locations everywhere around the world, yet I don't want an advertising company knowing that I just went to a fast food place.

YouTube is an endless trove of video content that anyone can contribute to, yet I'd much rather not give an advertiser information on every little interest that I have in video.

It's so bad for you, but it's so good.

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[-] IDatedSuccubi@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

I actually think OpenStreetMaps have much more content. In my town Google shows roads and houses. OSM shows me everything down to fences, entrances, beach boardwalks, positions of every single trailer in our nearby tourist housing and more. This is critical when you're a delivery guy and you need to know where the entrance to the gated facility is. I used Waze to drive, and then OSM Viewer to walk. Even when you zoom in on an empty spot in Google, OSM shows type of land, elevation, where the trees are if there are any, who is the owner of the land if it's owned by a company. I also like that it shows what factories are called and their land border, instead of just unnamed boxes. Worked for me both in Ukraine and in Ireland.

[-] lemann@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago

I prefer to use OSM personally because of the significantly higher level of detail.

I use Gmaps in a private tab to plan my routes though if I need to use public transport to get somewhere

[-] vita_man@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Is Open Street Maps app called OsmAnd?

[-] IDatedSuccubi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

OsmAnd is a viewer app, OSM themselves only have the API and a website

But I think it's a good one

[-] popekingjoe@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago

Yes that's one of the apps. There are others that I can't think of off the top of my head at the moment.

[-] CaldeiraG@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Organic Maps is another OSM GPS app, maybe it's the one you're thinking of?

[-] kplaceholder@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Organic Maps is OSM-based? I switched to it for a few months for the reasons stated above, but it really did not work out for me. Mainly because it was lacking a lot of major locations and facilities in my city, and I could never reliably ask for indications. Plus it had no info on public transportation other than the subway, which was unfortunate. I guess it was because I'm in Europe? Either way I eventually had to switch back to GMaps 😔

[-] CaldeiraG@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it is (website). OSM relies on the community and it's very common stuff is missing. I've started editing there exactly 2 weeks and added a lot of POIs on my city.

If you wanna have a headstart in contributing to OSM, you can check out their wiki or you could use a app like StreetComplete that brings some gamifying aspects by sending out quests.

[-] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

That's a client for it, i personally use Organic Maps

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

They have some good apps, but at the same time you can't guarantee any sort of longevity with them. I think they're going to pull the plug on Assistant soon, because it's been in maintenance mode for a couple of years and the service is getting really bad.

[-] Bongles@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

That's my issue. Privacy aside, for a time Google was making really good free services. Then they started abandoning everything. Why did we need Allo and Duo when hangouts existed, why did they basically abandon voice for years, etc.

I can't trust that any of their apps will exist in a year besides the main ones like Maps so why would I use them.

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Right, it makes no sense. I think the goal with Allo and Duo was to provide competition to Facetime and iMessages, but they could've just revamped the Hangouts app. Allo shut down, and Duo has been rebranded to Google Meet. Hangouts is still around, now called Google Chat, and sits in Gmail apparently.

[-] harry_h0udini911@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Yes, I too covered Google's craziness on my blog. But indeed, people respect their privacy when they are in eye to eye, while when we are in online-they don't see the backstage bounty process, so they sign up without caring about their privacy.

Check out my detailed post on why privacy matters: https://technomagnus.vercel.app/posts/why-privacy-matters

[-] soyagi@yiffit.net -1 points 2 years ago

Maybe an unpopular opinion, but you can use Google Maps without GPS and in Incognito mode, and you can watch YouTube without being logged in and/or not saving your watch history. You're in complete control over the info you give Google. You can fully enjoy their services without the ickyness you described.

[-] elfin8er@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

Good thing for Google that they can still track you in a number of other ways.

[-] soyagi@yiffit.net 2 points 2 years ago

Oh, definitely. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but there's room for a middle ground between selling your soul to Google and avoiding their services like the plague.

[-] dedale@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

They can fingerprint your browser and (very) probably your hardware, along with ip, location, and other leaked data, allowing them to reliably identify you whether you're logged in or not.
At this point, it's more of a symbolic protest.

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