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Summary

Elon Musk sparked outrage in Germany by endorsing the far-right, anti-immigrant Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party on his platform, X, claiming “only the AfD can save Germany.”

The AfD, which polls second ahead of Germany’s February snap election, has been labeled extremist by German intelligence.

Political leaders accused Musk of election interference, while others criticized his remarks as harmful. Musk later doubled down, calling for Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s resignation.

Musk’s comments align with his past support for far-right and anti-immigration figures across Europe and beyond.

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[-] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Elon Musk is a danger to democracy all over the world

[-] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 1 points 3 months ago

saving them from what?

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

American here. Can we begin our deportations with Musk?

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Musk reminds me of that Blofeld character that was in one of those lethal weapon flicks

[-] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Why do Putin and the billionaires he shepherds think that all this far-right democracy killing shit is so super duper? I marvel that they never seem to stop and think "this could eventually go badly for me."

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Because he’s racist. There’s no more logic to it than that.

[-] AreaSIX@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

How's the actions of the top US billionaire who just practically bought the American government the fault of Putin? Nah man, the US has to shoulder the responsibility for unleashing this fucking plague on the rest of the world.

Putin has done a lot of evil shit, but this one is all US all the way. In Russia, the state is the ultimate power, as evidenced by Putin's ultimatum to the oligarchs to bend the knee when he took power. Similar to China, where Jack Ma disappeared for a while after making critical comments on Chinese state policy, and every billionaire got the message. It's the US that has inverted this relationship so that the state bends the knee to insane billionaires like this one and let's them run amok. So Elon can hardly be blamed on Putin.

[-] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago

Stfu Musk you know shit about Germany

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

English teacher here. Often editing to use less words can make your statements more concise and accurate. For example, try "STFU Musk, you know shit"

[-] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago

I'm not a native English speaker, thank you!

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Don't listen to them, your statement was fine, your English is good, and I think what you wrote is better than their edit.

I think they're trying to be funny by implying that he doesn't know shit about anything, rather than just Germany, but it's not a well crafted joke if that was the intention.

[-] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago

Oh i knew that, my reply was purely ironically :)

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Their advice is kind of bad... "you know shit" implies that he's intelligent and knows things. Especially if just written down. If speaking, you may be able to convey what you want with tone and context, but even still...

Despite it being technically incorrect, grammatically, what you meant to say was, "you don't know shit." E.g., "You don't know shit about Germany" = "You know nothing about Germany."

English is fucking weird, and I can't imagine learning all of these rules. Frankly, I couldn't even explain to you how I know 3/4 of them, it's just innate at this point.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 0 points 3 months ago

Mm but we're also very contextual- the 'shut the fuck up' implies the negative. So a native speaker automatically fills in the missing 'all' after shit or 'don't' before know depending on regional preference

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I definitely read it the correct way, but I can see how someone who isn't a native speaker could be confused by the wording. "You know shit" just sounds weird, especially after such a negative prior sentence.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago

Fun part is that only really applies in the written format - spoken it would have been incredibly clear!

(Enflish isn't an inflection language my arse} )

[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Elon Musk sparked outrage in Germany by endorsing the far-right, anti-immigrant Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party on his platform, X, claiming “only the AfD can save Germany.”

I do not understand the outrage on this (regard Musk being Far-Right supporter), everyone knows Musk has become an immensely Extreme Far-Right supporter and leans heavily into Fascism. He support all the Right/ Far-Right political parties and people.

“only the AfD can save Germany.”

As usual, his claims are immensely wrong, stupid and idiotic. I mean, the afD literally tried to do a coúp in Germany;

  1. Gevaar voor Duitsland niet geweken met oppakken coupplanners, angst voor rechts-radicale AfD groeit.
  2. Germany's far-right AfD party to eject members for suspected links to militant group.

The AfD, which polls second ahead of Germany’s February snap election, has been labeled extremist by German intelligence.

Unfortunately shows that lots of people in Germany are supporting Far-Right/ Nazism ideas, tactics and ideology. Especially since it has been proven that many of the afD are Nazi-supports (especially the leaders);

  1. Co-leader of Germany's far-right AfD party fined for using Nazi slogan

From article 3;

The case involved Björn Höcke's use of "Everything for Germany!" in a 2021 speech. While prosecutors said he knew it was originally a Nazi slogan, Höcke claimed it was an "everyday saying".

This text is to separate the quote of the article and the quote from OP's post.

Political leaders accused Musk of election interference, while others criticized his remarks as harmful.

Accussed? If I remember, he did interfere with the election in America by trying to 'purchase' votes (Insanity that this is allowed);

  1. Elon Musk can keep giving $1m to voters, judge rules.
[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Accussed? If I remember, he did interfere with the election in America by trying to ‘purchase’ votes (Insanity that this is allowed);

Citizens United ruling says money is speech. So in the US, this is unfortunately 100% legal.

Not in the EU though...

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[-] hmonkey@lemy.lol 0 points 3 months ago

I can see how people might get a bit NIMBY about islamic terrorism. But he doesn't even live there, man idk

[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

So in the news article from OP this was written;

Late on Friday, after at least two people were killed and scores wounded in a suspected terror attack on a Christmas market in the German city of Magdeburg, Musk doubled down, tweeting: “Scholz should resign immediately. Incompetent fool.”

This text is to separate the quote of the article and the quote from OP’s post.

I can see how people might get a bit NIMBY about islamic terrorism.

But the thing about that is, news come out that the person who did the terrorist attack on the Christmas Market is anti-islam, pro-israel and pro-Wilders (leader of the Far-Right PVV Dutch party).

  1. What we know about the suspect behind the German Christmas market attack;
  2. Suspect in Magdeburg market attack is pro-AfD Saudi doctor

From article 1;

Taleb’s X account is filled with tweets and retweets focusing on anti-Islam themes and criticism of the religion while sharing congratulatory notes to Muslims who left the faith. He also described himself as a former Muslim.

From article 2:

“The real hero is this man,” he added, quoting a tweet from Geert Wilders, the far-Right Dutch politician, that read: “Islam is a lie. Mohammed is a criminal. The Koran is poison.”

The man suspected of driving a car into a Christmas market in Germany is an exiled Saudi doctor who praised far-Right politicians for combating the “Islamisation” of Europe and pledged to take “revenge” for the “harassment” of female refugees.

In one tweet he wrote: “I have to admit that I was deceived by western Leftists. I thought they welcome refugees because they care for human rights. But my experience in Germany showed me that they welcome refugees because they want to Islamise Europe.”

He also voiced support for Elon Musk, Tommy Robinson and Alternative for Germany, the far-right anti-immigration party.

I think that's enough quotes from the article to show, he's immensely anti-islam. So, I'm confused as to why Musk blames Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

[-] hmonkey@lemy.lol 0 points 3 months ago

That is a bizarre twist... So a former Muslim who now hates Islam wants to pose as an islamic terrorist, hoping nobody finds out he's anti-islam afterwards, I just don't understand his plan. If he's right about the state of islamic terrorism (which I wouldn't know since I don't live there) he shouldn't have to contribute to it for people to notice

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

You don't have to go through such mental gymnastics. He's just a far-right terrorist. Period.

[-] hmonkey@lemy.lol 1 points 3 months ago

There's usually logic in people's decisions even if the logic ultimately derives from nonsense. Not that you have any obligation to understand it but I like to figure these kinds of things out

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