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[-] pachrist@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago

No, it's not.

It's an acknowledgement that there's a massive problem.

These companies are literally willing to bankrupt you to death. Their behavior is inexcusable. They profiteer off of human suffering.

We live in a country founded by people who were unhappy with the status quo and were willing to pick up a gun to change things. We shouldn't act surprised that it still happens. I don't think we should celebrate it, because it's sad that this is happening in the first place, that someone feels they need to do this. This problem is solvable, and it can be solved civilly, or it will be solved uncivilly.

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Thats exactly how I feel "Its sad that this is looking like the solution"

Like, it had to come to this? You couldnt just set up your little racket and keep the golden goose fat and happy? Or atleast adequately provided for and left alone?

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[-] ellypony@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago
[-] ramsorge@discuss.online 19 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah they keep calling him radicalized. I just keep thinking this is a normal reaction and that corporate America and its shills are the radical ones.

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.today 15 points 2 weeks ago

"Would you shoot literal hitler in the back?" "Fuck yeah, bud" "Who radicalized you, everything that man did was legal"

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[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I've read the manifesto. I have the same thoughts as you. I wonder with all these people calling him radical if maybe there's a fake manifesto out there. Something created JUST to make him sound crazy? That would explain the wildly different views of him being radical.

Remember, one month ago, the shooting hadn't happened yet. Nobody knew Luigis name or face. So if you go from not knowing he exists, to seeing him murder a guy, and then get told he has plans for domination, and kill all the people......it would be logical to understand why someone would call that perspective radicalized.

That's not what he is, or what he wrote, but if you read a fake manifesto, believed it to be real, that would explain people saying that.

Otherwise, I'm confused where "radicalized" comes from.

[-] NewDark@lemmings.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

The media attempting to paint a narrative. Consent manufacturering machine go brrr.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

People don't read the manifesto, just the headlines calling him radicalised.

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[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago

Hi I’m new to Lemmy since Reddit decided to permaban me due to support I showed for Luigi. Good riddance to be honest. I should have fully quit when they shut down Apollo but didn’t know Lemmy existed.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Just keep in mind that if you are not satisfied with how your particular instance is running, you don't have to stop using lemmy like you did with reddit. You can switch to a different instance and keep on chilling!

No more switching services! Gotta love this place.

To expand on this: You can migrate accounts fairly easily. You can export your subscribed communities, and import them into your new account. So the only real thing you’re losing is your post history, but even that is seen as a bonus by many users who are looking to burn their old account.

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[-] Gemini24601@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Anyone with half a brain can see that it isn’t “glorifying” violence, it’s merely giving an explanation of why Luigi did what he did. Glorification would play more into pathos, but the manifesto is mostly ethos

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

the most dangerous thing to a government isn't the people. it's not the external forces.

it's an idea so relatable to the public that the government loses containment of it and it spreads like fire in a grainery.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago

Reddit said so because it's CEO is known to be a greedy bastard who threw everything and everyone Bunder the bus for money. Luigi would not approve

[-] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

That's what reddit banned, it's so innocuous.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 weeks ago

They didn't ban it because it was dangerous or violent, They banned it because the anti-corporate and spez is a musk wanna be

[-] spector@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago

Thiel is one of reddits earliest investors. spez is a Thiel boy.

This whole time I can't believe how reddit managed to hold up a facade of being a cool progressive college student platform. They pulled the wool over everyone's eyes. It's as if they put lipstick on /pol/ and /b/. And everyone was like, alright a hip liberal platform. Sure if you ignore the iceberg of right wing bootlicking shit beneath the surface of the default subreddits.

[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

barbara streissand has taught them nothing apparently

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Yes it is. So what. The rich glorifies violence against the poor.

The leader of the country once said: "When the looting starts, the shooting starts"

So if its apparantly okay to use violence against alledged thieves (which is not okay btw, stealing should never equate a death sentence), then it must be okay to use violence against mass murderer CEOs.

"When the denying starts, the deposing starts" would be my rebuttal to that phase the ex-president said. Violence begets violence.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You get points for honesty, at least. Most people in here don't even admit this is a call for violence.

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[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

For a website with sections called nsfl and fight porn reddit takes a weird stance on manifestos.

[-] Kevnyon@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

You mean the website that didn't ban creepshots until MSM reported on it? That website?

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[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Glorifying violence is A-Ok when the government awards people the Medal of Honor.

Reddit needs to come up with a more accurate excuse for their censorship.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

If sharing Luigi's manifesto is glorifying violence then so is sharing the Declaration of Independence.

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[-] Matombo@feddit.org 12 points 2 weeks ago

note that reddit didn't have a problem with "orks must die jokes" or people celebrating war fotage as long as they celebrate the right peoples deaths

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[-] pfr@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 week ago

Not much of a Manifesto..., that's just a Note my dudes.

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[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

See, then you are giving a murderer's message publicity. As opposed to UnitedHealthcare, responsible for far more many deaths, having the ability to have as much publicity and as many lobbyists as they want.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Alleged murderer.

I think he is more than just the (relatively trivial) allegations against him. He has rallied support for massively reforming the American Healthcare system, which will save countless lives, improve our quality of life, and ensure the financial stability of the American Public.

[-] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

He has rallied support for massively reforming the American Healthcare system...

I would disagree with this. Nobody is talking about health care reform. People are talking about destroying an economic system that creates billionaires, and also about destroying the billionaires themselves. This hasn't been a call for reform, it's a call to arms.

The scariest thing is that people are beginning to accept that the system has always been rigged, and there is no other way to fix it.

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[-] sparrowstimulus@r.nf 9 points 1 week ago

In this case, I think of more like Guy Fawkes…..there is clearly a problem with the us death care system. And we are right to be angry with these companies that profiteer on our sickness and in some cases that result in people dying from delayed or denied care. Is is right to murder someone? No, of course not. I think the question to ask is who is the real murderer?

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

Thank you for posting this. I’ve been curious about what he wrote.

Shorter than some git commit messages. I’m a fan.

[-] DankDingleberry@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

sharing information is important. whether or not you are glorifying it depends on context.

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

No. It’s just Reddit’s thought police.

[-] letsgo@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

Of course not, it's just Spez sucking up to the billionaires in the hope that one of them will be dumb enough to toss him a few million for his shitpile.

[-] taanegl@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

Reddit gargles fascist schlong.

Nuff said.

[-] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

Reddit also thinks appealing a ridiculous van is harassment, so not exactly the brightest bulbs over there.

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[-] kava@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I think federal government probably sent a pretty please over to reddit HQ to censor this.

They're afraid of it fomenting further dissent. It's a delicate situation when the plebs are upset. A little bit is OK, in fact preferable. But too much can lead to a chain reaction that cannot be controlled.

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I've always thought well educated people have a great potential to be dangerous and achieve transcendental goals if organized. A group of engineers, of chemists, physicists, biologists, computer scientists after specific goals may be formidable enemies if they wanted. The 0.001%, the dirty rich, should now be aware.

[-] trolololol@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I think I saw a report many years past that engineers make a bigger than expected proportion of radicalized people, in the context of middle east insurgencies.

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago

Engineers tend to be less accepting of the "debate and theory" part of science and more of the "analyze and act" part.

As in, the debate is stupid, the theory is that the rich have fucked us all, now let's see what we can do immediately to make it work.

[-] cranakis@reddthat.com 5 points 1 week ago

I be searching like this these days:

-site:www.reddit.com

Fuck reddit. Fuck Spez and Fuck the police.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

What reddit thinks about anything matters to nobody but themselves

i would argue no, but then again, there's a difference between posting it, and supporting it.

glorifying and supporting violence is almost always against the rules on any platform anywhere. So.

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