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[-] Nunar@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago
[-] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Shutting Off X's Algorithm

Hey EU, that's not how any of this works. First of all, you do not have any control over that -- even if you demand it be done, there's no way to verify compliance. Second, there's always an "algorithm." There can't not be an "algorithm;" that would mean it would display nothing at all. Even the choice to just display tweets chronologically is still a choice, and implemented in the form of an "algorithm."

What you do have the power to do -- and what you should do -- is simply just straight-up block X entirely.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

I wouldn’t call reverse chronological order with blocks accounted for an algorithm.

Twitter didn’t always have an algorithm.

Mastodon does not have an algorithm. Or am I not being inclusive enough in my definition?

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

An important thing to consider: Mastodon doesn't have an "algorithm" for presenting posts in your subscription feed.

That doesn't mean it "does not have an algorithm" entirely, though. There's a couple of non-trivial ones being used to recommend friends and calculate the trending posts and tags that show up on the front page, and they do actually consider likes/shares as part of scoring.

https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/blob/54e20301462b381f27c50ed305abeedde1ace878/app/models/trends/statuses.rb#L98

[-] makyo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Yeah an algorithm is a series of mathematic instructions so from my armchair I'd say sort by date is not an algorithm. But to complicate things further there seems to be a sticking point with some that social media uses heuristics and not algorithms. I don't really understand the difference nor do I really care as this is all too much about semantics - /u/grue's final point is still spot on IMO. Why mess with letting a billionaire toy with the minds of your citizens? Let the USA have twitter and all that chaos to themselves.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Fair enough.

The algorithm part is a sticky point for me, because it’s always been my contention that you could directly map most of the systemic issues of social media with the rise of engagement algorithms.

In other words, reverse chronological order is the only way to do healthy social media in my opinion. (Or maybe I should say, healthiest). Algorithms introduce too many pernicious incentives. They optimize everything around the worst things.

Most people love algorithms though. And it seems most people don’t want to trade algorithms away. A reason that many fall off mastodon is the lack of an algorithm.

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[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Here on Lemmy, people who claim to advocate for freedom of speech and information, demanding for a social network to be shutdown, without even understanding the implications of it.

Details at six

[-] Rooty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Meta is a super invasive data harvesting tool that creates shadow profiles for non users, which is now being used to bolster authoritatarianism. If you fail to grasp thar you are either dense or malicious.

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[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Fractured internet here we come

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