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Democrats in denial over Trump defeat, voters say: ‘Haven’t learned the lessons’ (www.theguardian.com)

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Vincent Oriedo, a biotechnology scientist, had just such a question. What lessons have been learned, he asked, from Harris’s defeat in this vital swing county in a crucial battleground state that voted for Joe Biden four years ago, and how are the Democrats applying them?

“They did not answer the question,” he said.

“It tells me that they haven’t learned the lessons and they have their inner state of denial. I’ve been paying careful attention to the influencers within the Democratic party. Their discussions have centred around, ‘If only we messaged better, if only we had a better candidate, if only we did all these superficial things.’ There is really a lack of understanding that they are losing their base, losing constituencies they are taking for granted.”

“We have set ourselves up for generational loss because we keep promoting from within leaders that that do not criticise the moneyed interests. They refuse to take a hard look at what Americans actually believe and meet those needs.”

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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The only lesson to be learnt from this is that forgiving debts, pardoning marijuana offences, wanting fair elections, etc don't work.

The only lesson they could learn from this is that they weren't conservative enough.

Fuck that lesson.

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[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 months ago

Yep: https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/391-the-reckoning

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I don't know what all these comments are about he said it perfectly.

They refuse to take a hard look at what Americans actually believe and meet those needs

And they won't. Which is why they are a sunk cost. Ameicans will keep investing in it because it's, "the only othe choice" and the party will lose again and again.

2016 was 8 years ago people and the DNC has not evolved in the least.

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[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Unless and until we shut down the propaganda channels serving hostile foreign interests, it's going to be a long, painful struggle.

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[-] dx1@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Hear me out, what if they try running an even more genocidal candidate.

[-] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 months ago

Well, the more genocidal candidate won I guess.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I think that the Liberal ideology, with a capital L, is what is being revolted and rebelled against at a very fundamental level by a majority of America. But the Democrats can’t see it,

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