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[-] Fiona@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 10 months ago

Anyone who thinks this was about getting AI working was the idiot from the start, there still isn’t even a real use-case for it. This was always about funneling huge amounts of money from the government budget to a bunch of rich assholes. The outcome doesn’t matter at all here.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

there still isn’t even a real use-case for it

There are several real use cases for it, it's just that they're worth like ten bucks a month to me all together and OpenAI is running at a loss while charging... *checks notes* 200 dollars per month for their top tier model?

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

Exactly. Just look at Intel and the CHIPS Act.

[-] labbbb2@thelemmy.club 6 points 10 months ago

Why is there no real use-case for it? But what about disinformation?

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

And making starving artists’ lives even more unlivable. And taking human creativity and joy from humans.

While destroying the environment. It’s so efficient.

[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So, basically the military industrial complex (which liberals support!) but with less genocide? Don't get me wrong, I hate Trump and Republicans are clearly the greater evil, but liberals have helped conservatives funnel trillion of dollars in public assets to the 1% for decades. It was under Bill Clinton that the internet, which was publically funded and publicly built, was given to the 1%. So to me, this is just more of the same: capitalist politicians stealing from us to make the 1% wealthier.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

How was the Internet given to the 1% under Clinton? And people gave it to the tech companies. Internet was supposed to be a bunch of independent sites. But it is easier to just go to a few.

[-] labbbb2@thelemmy.club 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

helped conservatives funnel trillion of dollars in public assets to the 1% for decades. It was under Bill Clinton that the internet, which was publically funded and publicly built, was given to the 1%.

Do you have any proof, or is it just conspiracy theory?

So you want to say that liberals who oppose wealth inequality themselves support that same billionaires? What a BS.

P.S. It seems that democratic party in US is more right-wing than "social democratists" as in the EU, looking at their policies.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Most democrat politicians aren't Bernie Sanders or Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez. Sure, other very progressive dems also do exists, but the majority are those "human-faced capitalism" types.

[-] labbbb2@thelemmy.club 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Democratic party in US is more right-wing, looking at their politices. But by liberals I meant center-left like "social democratists" in the EU.

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[-] mosscap@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago

Taking the insanely massive emissions of the AI industry, it may not be genocide in the traditional sense, but it's contributions alone will lead to people dying

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[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 20 points 10 months ago

most of that 'hundreds of billions' isn't going to go towards the tech or infrastructure, it's gonna go to people. a very small number of specific individuals.

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[-] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah obviously we've completely lost the plot a long time ago. Nobody even remembers when tech was bands of ragtag nerds making something out of nothing. Now they are the rich whose only purpose to is extract more wealth. Tech what? Who even knows anymore.

That includes the average tech workers. If that angers you then you're lost too.

Nobody has noticed that there's more bragging about compensation than accomplishments. It used to be the other way around. Nerds eagerly showing off to anyone who will listen about whatever thing they cooked up. It's been this way for the past long time long before this LLM AI era.

[-] ansiz@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

It's because this wave of tech overlords rode in on the coattails of the actual smart group. No one in this new group has actual built/coded/designed anything good. Everything they actual get involved with is garbage. Musk Cyber truck and Zuck metaverse as two examples. Bezos isn't even the CEO of Amazon anymore, and he had pretty much be letting Andy Jassy run AWS/Amazon for close to 2 decades anyway.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah, give me a /technology/ sub that speaks about technology (have you heard about the esp-8266? Did you know a A4988 can steer a NEMA from a Raspberry pi? And even The 6 gen SSD can move X GB/s, what is the fastest quad core under 100$?) and not about funding and drama.

Or am I out of touch with reality :-) ?

[-] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

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[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

"Necessity is the mother of invention."

What you're likely seeing here is innovation similar to the early tech sector. The hardware limitation (no Nvidia chips) means different (usually more complex) solutions are needed.

These solutions usually require a deep understanding of a specific area of mathematics, and expertise in coding. The person making it normally has to be heavily invested, since it still eats a lot of hours.

I often joke, the mathematician who finds a faster algorithm for matrix operations is sitting on a billion dollar idea.

[-] Isthisreddit@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

And that mathematician won't see the profits for that faster algorithm and you will never hear their name - shits been happening in tech for decades

[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

As a mathematician who has worked in tech, this I am very much aware of XD

[-] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Deepseek api is down today - probably a result of their viral success recently..

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[-] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago

Guys listen up, every deepseek model comes with a dedicated chinese spy, who will log all your data and send it back to CCP who will use it to plot the destruction of the western civilization.

Instead we should use Freedom© models from OpenAI (side note if deepseek is so "open" how come they don't have open in their name huh?) even if OpenAI don't show their reasoning, they only do this cuz they want to protect us and they stand for our values.

They cost 100x more only because they are fighting for our Freedom and Freedom doesn't come cheap, Freedom doesn't have a price, Freedom requires our sacrifice.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

First paragraph is something I believe some people will say unironically.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

use it to plot the destruction of the western civilization

Peaks around at the state of Western Civilization

Boots up another copy of DeepSeek

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[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Please!!! Come and take your money!

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

The US is getting owned by China left and right, but sure lets focus on abusing minorities, women, LGBTQ+, and the poor instead of investing on actually making America great. Whatever.

[-] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored [gay, trans, Hispanic, etc ] man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

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[-] daddy32@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Maybe they try to imitate china on those topics?

[-] Embarrassingskidmark@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Of course it's faster & cheaper when it's being censored & can't access half of human history because the fucking ccp finds it offensive.

[-] raker@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

The model itself is probably not censored. The censorship comes on top. Preliminary tests already show how this can be circumvented.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 2 points 10 months ago

If censorship would make it cheaper then surely it wouldn't be that much cheaper than OpenAI. Different things are being censored and blocked but surely, your suggestion is a bit silly.

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[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago

China has a huge advantage in AI models because of how lax they are on intellectual property rights. US companies are fighting over API licensing costs, while china is just going to scrape everything and use it for free.

The US has a lead now, but I don't think they can maintain it without giving up on ethical training. Then again it may not matter if the US models are ethical if everyone will eventually just uses the superior unethically trained chinese models instead.

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