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[-] Sumocat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

“Earlier this week, DeepSeek unveiled its R1 model, which, the startup claims, meets, if not exceeds, performance from OpenAI’s o1 model released last year. (o1 is designed to tackle reasoning and math problems.)” — Oh, so China built their for math and we built ours for garbage. Interesting approach.

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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Again, this is all fucking stupid. China is giving this shit away for free to absolutely own the US for spending money on stupid fucking things like this.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Its good for the consumer. If companies like deepseek weren't just tossing them out there for anyone to use, Microsoft and Google would currently have a monopoly and it would all be subscription type services.

It also greatly reduces whatever chance the copyright shills have of legislating against it.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It's not good consumers at all, at least no explicitly. There are already open and free LLM models out there anyone can use that are just as good as OpenAI, for example.

What this is: a pretty simple deathblow to completely collapse the bullshit AI bubble in the US that was created by a bunch of wealthy idiots trying to fleece people out of money. Plain and simple.

While I'm happy that this pretty much destroys the business of OpenAI and the others, this bullshit funding by executive order is a bailout for those people, right out in the open. It's a classic Trump scam. Nobody will ever see where the money is going, and it's taxpayer dollars going right back into the banks of millionaires billionaires who were about lose the their asses for investing in this stupid shit in the first place.

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I mean Meta opened up Llama for free a while ago. But at the end of the day, the AI models posed to actually impact things are those integrated or integrateable into workflows, and those are all still more or less locked down.

[-] Tablaste@linux.community 0 points 1 week ago

Well to be fair, American companies did that too. They expand their services internationally "for free" and then get other countries hooked on it.

China is just taking a page from that playbook.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

No, China skipped all that bullshit and just said "Well what if we open source this and it's good or better than all the US companies?". Well those companies will wither and die. The transfer of money is a bailout for those companies. I assume Musk plotted this out.

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

The Chinese model has chain of thought that u can see. The model when asked to talk about chinas atrocities will go through a chain of though process outlining all the atrocities then conclude its not allowed to tell u. Cool technology tho I'm just waiting for a dolphin fine tuning.

[-] Phantom_Engineer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I've been playing around with the offline version of the model. It's interesting, but I think we'll have to wait for people to tinker with the open source base for awhile before we get something really great.

[-] SamboT@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah all the info is there and something switches it over to the generic response.

So fucked.

[-] HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

I'm using the 8b model and it's having no problem telling me about China's atrocities.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 week ago

If you run it locally, there's no filtering on the outputs. I asked it what happened in 1989 and it jumped straight into explaining the Tiananmen Square Massacre.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 1 week ago

There's also notable vitality in FOSS big data tools from China (Apache Doris, Kylin, Kyuubi etc.) that reminds of Hadoop in the USA 15 years ago while the USA data engineering now mostly turned to closed source cloud solutions.

[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

It kinda sucks it is very repetitive if you use it to craft a story

[-] probably2high@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago

This is going to sound wild, but why not use your brain for creativity, and use the the machine for crunching numbers?

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[-] PanArab@lemm.ee -2 points 1 week ago

People here forgot that Xi personally writes for Fortune

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