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Donald Trump has suggested large numbers of Palestinians should leave Gaza to “just clean out” the whole strip, after ordering the US military to restart shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel.

The US president said he wanted Gaza residents to move to neighbouring nations, and that they could be displaced “temporarily or could be long-term”, after a phone call with Jordan’s King Abdullah on Saturday.

“I said to him: I’d love you to take on more because I’m looking at the whole Gaza Strip right now and it’s a mess, it’s a real mess. I’d like him to take people,” Trump said, when asked about the call.

He also suggested Egypt as a destination for Gaza residents, and said he would raise the issue with President Abdel Fatah al-Sisi on Sunday.

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[-] drthunder@midwest.social 74 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Here are my thoughts:

  • Israel has been committing genocide in Gaza since day 1, they just pick up the pace sometimes
  • Every US president this century has enabled this
  • Biden and Harris were all on board with the current round of fast genocide and they should be remembered for it
  • Trump pretends to be anti-war but emboldened this shit by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem in 2018 or 19
  • Netanyahu wanted Trump to win, as evidenced by meeting him during the campaign last year
  • Any ceasefire supposedly happening right now is entirely to give Trump good press. He's going to give Israel even more support for their imperialist bullshit than Biden did and Harris would have
  • Because Trump won, the federal government is going after immigrants, nonwhite people, LGBT people, etc, and is going to further tear the good parts of the government down

I'm pretty disillusioned with the Democrats between the imperialism and almost completely giving in to the fascist takeover, but I wouldn't be looking to get out of the country if Harris had won, so thanks for that if you could have voted and didn't.

edit: I voted Uncommitted in the primary, helped out at my local Gaza camp, and have gone to rallies and distributed books about Palestine, so I'm not just sitting here at my computer saying all this

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Reeeeeeeeeally hard to stop my self from screaming “I fucking told you so” to all the idiots who insisted Trump would be better for the situation right now

This is literally the exact thing I’ve been trying to point out for months

[-] hark@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Trump is worse for saying the quiet part out loud, but the actions by all administrations since the establishment of israel show that this plan by israel is being followed regardless of what the president says out loud.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Nobody I know thought Trump would be better for Gaza. Just that Genocide is the worst situation and it was already being ignored.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

But now we get more death! Immigrants, trans people, FEMA, it’s like a Gatcha game of who else gets to suffer. We really taught them a lesson

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The dem leadership knew the whole time exactly how to win the election but werent willing to pay the price in thwarting AIPAC to secure that win. All they had to do was recognize the genocide a few days before the election and follow existing laws on it, and acknowledge that many Americans are struggling. They chose to roll the dice instead.

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 week ago

I pointed this out to a dem apologist on bluesky and their response was that ending the genocide on its own wouldn't have won the election.

Motherfucker, what?! Quite apart from the fact that ending a genocide shouldn't be evaluated on how likely it is to win an election, it is the right thing to do and it would have helped.

But the dems decided that continuing the genocide was more important than improving their chances of beating Trump. Assuming they believe what we were told that Trump would be worse at the genocide, that means the dems decided to continue the genocide and also risk worse genocide. So they just chose genocide.

And now people are still trying to get up on their high horses about this shit.

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 58 points 1 week ago

And that's why Kamala's stance on Palestine never bothered me.

I knew that as bad as it was, Trump would be worse.

I was right.

[-] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Gaza was fucked under either presidential option and we all knew that. Now we also get to enjoy getting fucked by Trump at home and hand the right the country. Other countries get to get bullied like Canada, Colombia, Greenland, Panama, and who knows who else and to what insane degree. Plus, Gaza will get to deal with a president that doesn’t bend to protest pressures at all and gives 0 fucks about humanitarian issues. We sure showed Biden for being an AIPAC puppet like the rest of the government. This is why the right has taken our government over. We constantly in fight and ignore realities for ideological purity while the right unites under the broad strokes of their agenda. When no option has the desired outcome, sometimes you have to pick the lesser evil.

[-] freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Nope, under the Democrats, there are many Representatives who would listen and put pressure on a Dem president to do the right thing. Thanks to people with a smooth brain who think BOTH SIDES SAME, they are going to find out what everyone else already knew.. they were never the same.

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[-] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 week ago

"Clean out", what a wording. So they no longer have any problem saying they support genocide.

[-] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 week ago

Just some light ethnic cleaning.

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[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Great fucking job, bothsiders. Now you get Genocide++.

I really hope you’re happy that your conscience is clean now the guy who’s main spokesman said Gaza’s ‘waterfront property could be very valuable’ and who himself declared it ‘could be better than Monaco’, clearly with an eye towards beachfront real estate, has the power to make that happen for his own gain.

This was entirely predictable, and we told you this would happen. Trump told you so himself. The dems weren’t perfect by any stretch, but Kamala absolutely wasn’t looking at the situation as to how she could personally profit through real estate development if the Palestinians were just wiped off the map as quickly as possible. Trump likely had the choicest property mapped out, with property developers already submitting proposals.

If you abstained because of both-sides re Israel, fuck you. You at best were played and at worst helped to play others, and now we ALL get to suffer.

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[-] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Wonderful. Nothing like the US backing state sponsored terrorism. Not that it's anything new...

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[-] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

He should give maralago to the Indian tribe that used to live there.

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[-] socsa@piefed.social 24 points 1 week ago

Oh so an actual genocide. Curious.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Continued genocide. As advertised.

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[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 week ago

Do you believe what was happening up until now was not genocide? Because if you don’t then calling this an actual genocide makes it seem like you do.

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[-] aarRJaay@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago

Native Americans suggest Americans should leave, “Just clean out “ the whole country, allow it to be rewilded and return to how it should be.

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[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago

Where do you send illegal immigrants if their country of origin no longer exists?

[-] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago

There was a movie about a guy stuck in an airport, I think it was called Die Hard 2.

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Protest voters looking more and more stupid by the day. And will continue to do so every day for the next 4 years minimum.

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[-] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

I guess it's time for all the "protest voters" to either admit they never gave a shit about Palestine or admit they fell for Russian propaganda.

Of course that's if they remember about Palestine. A shiny red ball might have rolled past and distracted them.

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It's like those fairy tales Zionists try to convince you about that every belief system should seek their own nation. It's easy to come up with free land when you have zero value for the people living on it.

[-] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Read THE SHOCK DOCTRINE. It was always gonna be this.

[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

Congrats leftists! You solved Palestine! We just won't have one!

[-] telllos@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

The number of people trying to argue that not voting was legitmate is baffling.

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[-] hark@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Seems odd to blame leftists instead of the people supporting, supplying, and carrying out the genocide.

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[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

How long until we hear about the plans for Dump Tower Gaza? Anyone wanna take a guess?

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago

Oh sure, just take the Palestenians, and shove them somewhere else. Good, endless angry people consolidating on another territory.

[-] blattrules@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Oh, now this asshole is all for other countries taking in displaced migrants.

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