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[-] girlthing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

First of all - yes, violence is the Nazi language, and probably the simplest way to get through to them. Pain and hurt is what they signed up for, and I wouldn't mind giving it to them.

But also consider:
https://crimethinc.com/2019/04/08/against-the-logic-of-the-guillotine-why-the-paris-commune-burned-the-guillotine-and-we-should-too

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Also consider NKVD and how in Stalin's USSR the enormous (real) trust Soviet state and revolutionary ideology had were spent on violence that weakened and poisoned the skeleton of that project before WWII fractured it. And then basically till USSR's end it was mimicking its own alternative self that didn't transpire because of repressions and war.

If you have a mechanism that doesn't work right, repeatedly hitting it with a heavy object is the least likely approach to succeed.

Approval of violence is that.

Also see Lao-Tzu, "one who excels in fighting is never roused in anger".

[-] WhosMansIsThis@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Thanks for this.

[-] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

As badly as I want this shirt, I could never wear it. Live in rural Oklahoma and it would cause nothing but fights. Sigh, oh to live anywhere but here

[-] nick@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago

I live in Ohio and wear it regularly, though I’m getting more nervous about it as the days go on.

But fuck it.

[-] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

It’d be 100x more effective if you were packing.

[-] nick@midwest.social 4 points 2 months ago

What makes you think I’m not! It IS Ohio after all.

(…I’m not 😕)

[-] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Living in Florida with two youngins, I can't risk it. Some unpermitted asshat will blow me away without so much as a word. My wife has a banned books shirt and an Alt NPS shirt, and I worry. I have some science shirts and a Reading Rainbow (unofficial) books shirt, and I'm just waiting for a confrontation. It's as far as I can risk.

[-] nomy@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

Get armed, it'll make the inevitable confrontation that much more of a teachable moment.

[-] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

There would be no teachable moment for an aggressor in this confrontation.

You never show a gun until you are in a situation where you have no choice but to employ it. Never brandish. This isnt the movies.

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[-] nick@midwest.social 0 points 2 months ago

Yeah that feels like capitulation to me.

I get your point and I understand, but that’s literally how they win: by cowing us

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[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

I like it, but please don't wear this in public. You're gonna scare some kids and make some parents angry and that'll just feed the nazis. But it's great for Saturday night's or as a work outfit.

[-] febra@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Around 26 nazis didn't appreciate this post.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Fascism by Eco includes lack of principle, that is, it's an ideology without form, except for traits that result from lack of form, like violence and hierarchy, but also approval of competitiveness (in the form of backstabbing among others), collectivism and self-sacrifice.

What I mean is - maybe the picture will feel too fascist for your taste, if you meditate on it for some time without reading comments. It suggests a fascist (without any "maybe") approach.

[-] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

I bought the "Doom x John Brown" shirt from their site last year and, as a lifelong Doom fan and anti-confederate, really savor wearing it when I go out.

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

Fuck yes. I just got a sticker from Punk With A Camera that says:

"I don't argue with people who John Brown would have shot"

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[-] bluesheep@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago
[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Thought it was one of theirs.

[-] nick@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago

Boy, there are a whole lotta shitty takes in this thread. Glad to start a conversation.

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[-] DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

Surprised this hasn't been removed for not being "safe enough."

(I fucking love it)

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago

Imagine wearing this to public gatherings. It would probably ruin some relationships but the chaos it would cause would be so sweet.

[-] Tezzerets_Tea_Time@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Nazi sympathizers aren't really people I want to have in my life.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

That's not the only people who'd distaste that.

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

But there are people who would dislike this because of the violence it depicts.

[-] Tezzerets_Tea_Time@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

They're allowed to. I don't need that kinda weakness in my circle, tho.

[-] oascany@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I could stand to lose the relationships this would ruin

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

FC St. Pauli has better anti-Fascists shirts and I do not want to stoop to the level of a shit neo-Nazi MAGAt.

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

What are you talking about "stooping to their level"? We literally shot Nazis on-sight because they were such a threat.

Just because violence isn't graceful, doesn't mean it's not necessary to end a threat to humanity. Sometimes it's the moral thing to do. Some people are simply too dangerous to allow their existence.

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