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[-] girlthing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

First of all - yes, violence is the Nazi language, and probably the simplest way to get through to them. Pain and hurt is what they signed up for, and I wouldn't mind giving it to them.

But also consider:
https://crimethinc.com/2019/04/08/against-the-logic-of-the-guillotine-why-the-paris-commune-burned-the-guillotine-and-we-should-too

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Also consider NKVD and how in Stalin's USSR the enormous (real) trust Soviet state and revolutionary ideology had were spent on violence that weakened and poisoned the skeleton of that project before WWII fractured it. And then basically till USSR's end it was mimicking its own alternative self that didn't transpire because of repressions and war.

If you have a mechanism that doesn't work right, repeatedly hitting it with a heavy object is the least likely approach to succeed.

Approval of violence is that.

Also see Lao-Tzu, "one who excels in fighting is never roused in anger".

[-] WhosMansIsThis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Thanks for this.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

I like it, but please don't wear this in public. You're gonna scare some kids and make some parents angry and that'll just feed the nazis. But it's great for Saturday night's or as a work outfit.

[-] febra@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Around 26 nazis didn't appreciate this post.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Fascism by Eco includes lack of principle, that is, it's an ideology without form, except for traits that result from lack of form, like violence and hierarchy, but also approval of competitiveness (in the form of backstabbing among others), collectivism and self-sacrifice.

What I mean is - maybe the picture will feel too fascist for your taste, if you meditate on it for some time without reading comments. It suggests a fascist (without any "maybe") approach.

[-] nick@midwest.social 1 points 1 week ago

Boy, there are a whole lotta shitty takes in this thread. Glad to start a conversation.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago
[-] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

As badly as I want this shirt, I could never wear it. Live in rural Oklahoma and it would cause nothing but fights. Sigh, oh to live anywhere but here

[-] nick@midwest.social 1 points 1 week ago

I live in Ohio and wear it regularly, though I’m getting more nervous about it as the days go on.

But fuck it.

[-] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It’d be 100x more effective if you were packing.

[-] nick@midwest.social 1 points 1 week ago

What makes you think I’m not! It IS Ohio after all.

(…I’m not 😕)

[-] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Living in Florida with two youngins, I can't risk it. Some unpermitted asshat will blow me away without so much as a word. My wife has a banned books shirt and an Alt NPS shirt, and I worry. I have some science shirts and a Reading Rainbow (unofficial) books shirt, and I'm just waiting for a confrontation. It's as far as I can risk.

[-] nomy@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Get armed, it'll make the inevitable confrontation that much more of a teachable moment.

[-] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

There would be no teachable moment for an aggressor in this confrontation.

You never show a gun until you are in a situation where you have no choice but to employ it. Never brandish. This isnt the movies.

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[-] nick@midwest.social 0 points 1 week ago

Yeah that feels like capitulation to me.

I get your point and I understand, but that’s literally how they win: by cowing us

[-] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

How does a wearing a shirt help me beat them? Does it pass legislation? Does it organize protests? Does it unionize or strike?

It sounds like you want me to endanger myself for no good reason instead of doing something meaningful. Give me a break. I'm not cowing. I'm simply not taking unnecessary risks THAT WILL DO NOTHING.

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[-] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

I bought the "Doom x John Brown" shirt from their site last year and, as a lifelong Doom fan and anti-confederate, really savor wearing it when I go out.

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Fuck yes. I just got a sticker from Punk With A Camera that says:

"I don't argue with people who John Brown would have shot"

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[-] DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

Surprised this hasn't been removed for not being "safe enough."

(I fucking love it)

[-] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

That’s a Klansmen, not a Nazi.

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[-] bluesheep@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago
[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Thought it was one of theirs.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Self defense. Violent views that would not tolerate your very existence don’t qualify for tolerance.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

FC St. Pauli has better anti-Fascists shirts and I do not want to stoop to the level of a shit neo-Nazi MAGAt.

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

What are you talking about "stooping to their level"? We literally shot Nazis on-sight because they were such a threat.

Just because violence isn't graceful, doesn't mean it's not necessary to end a threat to humanity. Sometimes it's the moral thing to do. Some people are simply too dangerous to allow their existence.

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