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I thought I had finally found a healthy drink I liked with no artificial sweetness and they had to go and fuck it up

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[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 91 points 2 weeks ago

Stevia isn't artificial lol

[-] Today@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago

But it tastes artificial and fucks with lots of tummies.

[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago

I think anything you're not used to has the potential to fuck with your tummy

[-] digger@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago

I have yet to find a low calorie sweetener that doesn't bother my digestive system. My wife, who lives on diet Pepsi, doesn't believe me.

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[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah Stevia tastes like poison to me, super bitter.

Basically all artificial sweeteners taste like either bitter or nothing at all to me. So I'm really angry when I buy a product I've been buying for years and it suddenly tastes like a Nintendo Switch cartridge.

>:(

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[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

You're thinking of xylitol which gets mixed with commercial stevia crystals to cut the sweetness

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

Have we applied the same scrutiny to HFCS or refined Sugar itself? Or does sugar get a pass because it was the first plant processed for its sweetness?

[-] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 71 points 2 weeks ago

On the plus side, stevia isn't artificial.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 weeks ago

What is "artificial?"

It is all marketing BS

[-] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 37 points 2 weeks ago

Generally, artificial sweeteners are chemically synthesized while natural sweeteners are grown and refined.

I used to grow the stevia plant in my garden.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 weeks ago

Does that matter at all?

In reality it is all arbitrary. By that definition table salt is artificial and poison nightshade is natural.

https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2018/05/24/mythbusting-gone-wrong-how-dangerous-organic-pesticide-myth-began/

[-] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 40 points 2 weeks ago

Hey, you asked... I just answered.

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[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

Not only that, but unless you can guarantee that a significant portion users will recycle those aluminum cans, they are significantly more energy intensive to manufacture compared to single use plastic bottles.

[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Do most people not recycle cans?

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Here in Cleveland, we used to just put all trash, no recycling, on the lawn. Then in 2008 or so, they put out a recycling innitive. Each resident had to pay $10 per family (so duplexs would buy 2 per house), and they'd get a blue bin. You put the recycling in the blue bin, and a seperate truck picks that up.

Sounds great right?

Welll..........in 2020 or so they found out the 1st truck would take your black bin regular trash, and the 2nd truck would take your blue bin recyclables, and then BOTH trucks would drop off in the same pile, in the same landfill with zero recycling done.

Since that was discovered I see a massive 90%+ dropoff in blue bins. Not only have people lost faith in buying blue bins at all, but most people now use their blue bins as 2nd regular non-recycling trash can.

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[-] socsa@piefed.social 39 points 2 weeks ago

The unsweetened tea fight is a losing battle. The only way to get it is to make it yourself.

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[-] Epicmulch@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

I thought stevia wasn't an artificial sweetener. It's just a leaf.

[-] Zanz@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 weeks ago

Stevie leaf extract is a petroleum base sweetener. It was used as an artificial sweetener , but then they found that it could be naturally occurring in small quantities and rebranded. It works like natural flavors where it can still come from petroleum so long as its naturally occurring with some source. I find it extremely bitter and soapy, just like almost every other artificial sweetener.

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[-] Welt@lazysoci.al 22 points 2 weeks ago

That's the trouble with words like 'artificial' and 'natural'. They mean nothing. It would be better to call them refined additives, because I expect the "stevia" would be in a refined, extracted form when added - whether substantially changed from the form present in the plant or not, this could be considered artificial, if we insist on using this word.

[-] udon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Careful, this drink contains chemicals!

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[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

This is what bothers me the most from marketing. Uranium, arsenic and petroleum are 100% natural too

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[-] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I hate this brand, we now pay 6$ for water from a stupid can instead of having water bottles at festivals for 1-2$, the dude who owns it is friends with insomniacs owner, ruined the water supply at every festival. Redbull is typically cheaper than water now at 4$.

No ppl dont think you're drinking alcohol like they claim its for, that has never been a valid reaon to grab it, we all know its water, someone asking you for some water should be the first clue ppl dont think its alcohol.

[-] turmacar@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Cans are actually recyclable. That's the benefit. The rest is marketing.

Red Bull doesn't give you wings either.

[-] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

The reason venues live the cans is that that can't be recapped after opening, so they are harder to refill so you keep buying more instead of reupping in the bathroom.

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[-] seven_phone@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

Stevia can only be added in the manufacturing process by a cyclone valve which is actually quite noisy.

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 2 weeks ago

How about drinking water from the tap? Much cheaper, not wasting cans, and healthy. If you live in a community with bad tap water, write a letter to your local water board, and buy a filtration tank you can put in your fridge.

If you must really have flavor, buy some of the powdered dehydrated lime or orange powder packets.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 weeks ago

I presume you're not from the US.

Many municipalities across the US do not have drinkable water, and many more do not offer public access to water fountains. Thus, bottled water is a huge market in the US as free facilities are not always available.

I'm Canadian and I legitimately cannot recall the last time I bought bottled or canned water. I bring my two 18.9L jugs to the store to fill them with filtered water for $5 and that's the extent of my "bottled water" consumption. Elsewhere, I carry a metal water bottle I can get refilled anywhere for free.

[-] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, the US is a mirage of a first-world country.

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[-] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

How were you convinced sweet tea was a healthy drink to begin with? https://health.clevelandclinic.org/what-is-stevia Stevia to reduce the amount of agave nectar used is making it healthier if anything. Can you actually taste it if it's used sparingly in addition to real sugar?

[-] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

Stevia leaves a disgusting after taste and is an immediate deal breaker for me in any drink.

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[-] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

I'm sorry, you didn't actually think this beverage was healthy to begin with, right? Lol

For starters, agave is one of the highest fructose-containing sweeteners out there. Our bodies can't use fructose directly, so most fructose metabolism occurs in the liver where it's converted to glucose. Overconsumption of it may promote metabolic syndrome even more than glucose.

The only two sweeteners I use are date sugar (whole powderized dates), and rarely molasses. Unsweetened teas might be an acquired taste for some, but after getting used to it, they generally add plenty of sweetness on their own.

[-] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 weeks ago

Before this picture I thought Liquid Death was literally water in a can.

Had no idea they added stuff.

[-] MelonYellow@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah the slogan goes "Don't be scared. It's just water." So same here, I thought it was just water lol.

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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 17 points 2 weeks ago

i have no issue with stevia other than it tastes fucking awful. just a terrible aftertaste that makes me never want to consume it ever, in any configuration.

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[-] Grabthar@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Why do all the 0 calorie sweeteners have to taste like a dead hobo's arse?

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[-] ArtemisimetrA@lemmy.duck.cafe 12 points 2 weeks ago

The only benefit this company offers with their beverages is the non-alcoholic-but-not-NA-beer tall-boy. My recovering alcoholic friend brings these to parties if he knows people will be drinking and just hold one and I've watched him go sober through so many situations where he'd probably have had a drink before. Not that these are the only options for that, though, obviously.

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[-] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 2 weeks ago

So, having a pre-chilled and conveniently-available product can be nice when you're away from home, but if this is for at home, have you ever considered just, you know, making a pitcher of your own drink with whatever you want? Maybe take a Thermos of the stuff chilled or iced if you're on the go? I mean, if you want agave as your sweetener, then you can make a drink with just agave and then tweak it to however you want. Food-grade citric acid is a preservative -- I have a bottle in the pantry. You can purchase all sorts of flavors.

Like, if you buy a premade good, then you can benefit from the R&D done by the company, but if you have extremely exacting demands that you feel no company is making, you can rage about it or just make what you want. In general, drinks have an enormous markup -- I mean, you're mostly buying water with a little flavoring and coloring -- so you can have exactly what you want and it'll probably be cheaper, too.

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