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Stop with this bullshit FUD. For fucks sake, I thought foss communities were smarter than Republicans who fall for the same old shit every single fucking time. Clearly I was mistaken.
@nixCraft@mastodon.social CEO isn't "ruining Firefox on purpose" - the (current) purpose of Firefox is simply to protect Google from an anti-trust monopoly case, for Chrome. [Evidence? Mozilla's funding]
@nixCraft@mastodon.social Yesterday, I tried to help a friend by looking up a kitchen appliance on the Sur La Table web site to see if they carried the product. A few minutes later, I got some spam from some nonentity calling itself surlatable@safeopt.com thanking me for "checking us out." I had not logged in and Firefox was configure to delete cookies when it closes.
I put both on my shit list: what would you do if visited a store and they had someone follow you home and put trash in your mailbox?
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Only a sociopath can take millions from unpaid open source contributors and security researchers. When your wealth is derived from others' poverty it creates sociopathy in those that scramble over their fellow workers to climb to the top. Even the university tenure process trains teachers and students to exploit anyone beneath them. Survival of the greediest.
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> you can't watch p0rn,
And how is that TOS enforced?
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No more Mozilla, no more Firefox, how is Thunderbird? Should it go too?
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@nixCraft@mastodon.social man with (a lot of ) money turns bad
@nixCraft@mastodon.social I was thinking about it last night, and I really think they are sabotaging themselves.
@nixCraft@mastodon.social wait what. What about net neutrality?
And isn't is amazing that they keep begging for donations, so their CEO can get at least $7MM a year? WTF? They are millionaires, and they expect us to contribute money to them, as if they are some deity? And Mitchell Baker is doing a shit job too. She's worth minimum wage.
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There is pressure to make it die, zero doubt.
@nixCraft@mastodon.social Alphabet and or Microsoft goes nudge nudge, know what I mean? After the project’s dead, cash in reward
@nixCraft@mastodon.social $7M, seriously? What's source for this? If true, then beyond outrageous.
@nixCraft@mastodon.social FLOSS foundations must be as minimalist as possible, especially in terms of budget.
@nixCraft@mastodon.social Librewolf and Mullvad/Tor Browser for me then I guess.
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CEO Compensation: The high CEO compensation raises questions about resource allocation and whether it aligns with the company's non-profit roots.
@nixCraft@mastodon.social I'm just hoping that #ZenBrowser stays viable until #ladybirdbrowser can take over.
#firefox was already too dependent on kickbacks from G...
@nixCraft@mastodon.social When the Mozilla Corporation was spun up and Firefox was transferred under it, the writing was on the wall: Mozilla had been captured by VC techbros whose long-term mission will be enshitification. Freemium services, acquisitions, data collection. It's the only formula for value these VC types know.
All C-levels and Board members need to be purged, Pocket and VPN and the other nonsense needs to go, and Mozilla needs to only create a browser. Only a browser.
@nixCraft@mastodon.social friggin a. How can we incentivize suits and shareholders to care about long term health and sustainability instead of short term gains?
@nixCraft@mastodon.social Stupidity, Cumulative bad decisions by execs who don't give a hoot.
@nixCraft@mastodon.social I wondered too whether this was a ploy to intentionally destroy their browser. I'm at a loss for better explanations why they'd destroy their reputation so meticulously.
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Billion dollars from google, being funded 90% by google.
@nixCraft@mastodon.social Good bye Firefox. Switching to Brave.
@nixCraft@mastodon.social I got librewolf yestrtday
@nixCraft@mastodon.social Firefox lost a long time ago, but had guaranteed income from the search-ads deals. They tried many things over the years to create another revenue source but failed.
I heard from a Mozilla insider that regulatory changes (from even before the current administration) will make those search-ads deals illegal. Which is kind of a good thing but now the org is facing its end and dissolving in predictable ways
@nixCraft@mastodon.social "It is like they want to ruin the project on purpose. There is no other explanation I can think of. Can you?"
I think ruining projects is a side-effect, not the purple/goal. Management/CEOs want to wring the most short-term profit they can out of an organization while they are running it. That usually means damaging the product/reputation in the long run, but they'll be retired by the time their greed becomes a problem.
@nixCraft@mastodon.social capitalism never works, learnt the hard way
@nixCraft@mastodon.social It reminds me of what happened with Unity 3D some years ago.
@nixCraft@mastodon.social Think of it as "The precession of the perihelion of marketing." Leadership inexplicably is never where the (classic) theory says it's supposed to be...
@mozillaofficial@mastodon.social and other social/capital hybrids making big wonky loops again and again in plain sight reveal something more general that's too low-level to be seen with the naked eye...
...That our theories of value, incentive, growth, and wealth need fundamental, alienating rewriting. That's happening, though we forget today's store-brand Relativity took many decades of uncertainty, this will too.
@nixCraft@mastodon.social Greed and Trump.
As Trump is now in power, all these large corporations will feel empowered to be more pro money, pro selling data, pro fucking users data, pro I don't give a damn as I won't be investigated.
Browsers and search companies will ALWAYS find a way to sell data - openly or avertly. Cookies, now fingering, next will be fisting.
@nixCraft@mastodon.social “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.” - Hanlon’s razor
@nixCraft@mastodon.social It's mediocre thinkers of the sort you see embedded in the bowels of every large enterprise elevated into the stewardship of something they don't understand.
They're the sort of people locked into the orthodoxy of what others are doing — not looking for the best, simplest, or easiest routes forward but rather the safest routes forward — the same ones everyone else is pursuing.
They squandered Mozilla's unique position and can't fathom why they're locked into this perpetual decline.
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Easy explanation: Once Chrome became good enough, the Google contract changed to "here's $$$$$, make Firefox irrelevant".
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Any advice on a new browser with useful add-ons?
@nixCraft@mastodon.social Can't forget about their big Mozilla.AI push either! :finger_point:@MozillaAI@mastodon.social
@nixCraft@mastodon.social The question now is what are the alternatives? A fork of Firefox not doing that crap would be very nice if it had all the same features. I really need the container tab function.
Zen has the container tab function built-in on their Firefox fork. You don't even need to install the extension.
@nixCraft@mastodon.social Ahah bad timing for this 😂.
FYI, Sylvestre from Mozilla replied on HN:
"Please don't read too much into this ;) We moved from self-hosted Discourse to hosted Discourse. The transfer was initiated late from the Mozilla side (my bad) and the automatic system from Discourse kicked in."
@dannycolin@floss.social thank you for the heads up! regardless of that they are pushing AI and selling data et all are bad move.
@nixCraft@mastodon.social @dannycolin@floss.social Ai in itself is fine. Local LLM translation in Firefox is really good and I'd take it over Google Translate any time. If Mozilla is planning on adding local LLM summary of webpages, fine. If they train it on their own systems and not on user's I'm fine with it.
Firefox is the only browser that still gives us flexibility with about:config. Don't like the Labs panel? You can turn it off. Don't like this or that? You can turn it off. They just need to fix their communication.
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