I'm not convinced there will be an election in 2028...
There won't at the current trajectory. There won't even be midterms.
I remember Republicans checking out on elections back in 2018 because they bought hard into the Trump "elections are rigged" propaganda. The GOP lost seven Senate seats that year as conservative turnout plunged.
I wonder if Democrats will make the same mistake in 2026.
No, I don't think Democrats are ready to make new mistakes yet. They still won't abandon their devotion to the old mistakes.
There will, but it won't be a fair one. They have "elections" in Russia, too.
There will absolutely be an election.
It will be a farce, a Russian election where there's only one possibility to win.
If we're not pitchforks in the street before then, I don't hold much hope
Or maybe a Hungary-style election where the entire media landscape shills for the ruling class and people on social media are bombarded with misinformation and one-sided reporting.
The Harris campaign had to cover the governor’s tracks when he tripped up during a California fundraiser by stating that the constitutionally-mandated system used to select the president, otherwise known as the electoral college, “needs to go”.
How the hell is that a gaffe? It's both the truth and exactly what people want to hear. Any lib who thinks like that needs to kindly keep their mouths shut for the next four years. This country needs radical change, the only choice you get is which one you want.
and exactly what people want to hear
It's what people who care about democracy want to hear. That certainly isn't everyone.
Here, let me grab a sharpie and fix that.
The Harris campaign made a cowardly attempt to walk back the governor's statements when he said during a California fundraiser that the broken election systems used for gerrymandering and enabling the double elections of Donald Trump, "needs to go".
Him calling the GOP weird was not a gaffe but the campaign made him walk away from that language because it might offend potential turncoats. The fact he is internalizing the criticism worries me.
My only "problem" with the weird-comments were that they were overused. While it is certainly true, and Waltz had every reason to call it out, supporters often kept repeating it in the context of "look how triggered Republicans are by this". After a while it gave me the same vibe as people shoehorning "let's go brandon" into every situation.
My only problem with the “weird” verbiage is that it was far too soft.
The GOP is far beyond “weird” and well into full-blown Fascist territory.
But we wouldn’t want to “alienate” anybody by speaking facts!
But the thing about the "weird" verbiage is that it pissed them off way more than the harder insults. Especially if you phrase the accusation correctly.
For example, here's a good response to a MAGA shitting on trans children, "it's really weird that you care so much about children's genitals."
It's because they don't have a defense for it. They can do mental gymnastics for the harder stuff pretty easily because those terms are in black and white. Weird is a very grey area term, and they have to explain why the behavior is normal.
They can do mental gymnastics for the harder stuff pretty easily because those terms are in black and white. Weird is a very grey area term, and they have to explain why the behavior is normal.
They also spend most of their time trying to argue that their political party is on the side of normal; so they find it very necessary to discuss at length how normal they are which only makes them look weirder.
It really was an effective line of attack. I guess that's why it had to be jettisoned in favor of parading around with Liz Cheney.
Yeah, but they don't care if you call them fascists. Calling them weird made them freak out, because not fitting in is what makes fascists target you next
They all think "if I were in charge of the world it would be great, and they're all just like me! We just have to get rid of a few problems mucking up the works"
Weird works because if they were looked into even slightly, they're creepy as hell. They've got all kinds of SA allegations, say creepy things they've been thinking about kids, and they go around accusing others of their kinks
They can shake off being called a Nazi, you could bring up their rape charges, but none of that matters
It's vibes based, so you have to question their vibes before you can apply logic
After a while it gave me the same vibe as people shoehorning “let’s go brandon” into every situation.
Except that....worked?
One of the takeaways from the 2024 election is that if you have something that works, repetition is key for the idiot American electorate.
Yeah, interesting how the Harris campaign had all the momentum after the Waltz nomination, then pivoted back to neoliberal wonkiness and then crashed and burned again.
Oh man I can't wait for right-wing/foreign propaganda to tell progressives what they should hate about Walz.
And don't forget this from a russian propagandist in 2015 (archived reddit link):
“Once we isolate key people, we look for people we know are in their upstream – people that they read posts from, but who themselves are less influential. We then either start flame wars with bots to derail the conversations that are influencing influential people, or else send off specific tasks for sockpuppets (changing this wording of an idea here; cause an ideological split there; etc).”
To be fair it doesn't take much to cause an idealogical split between leftists.
I'm more interested in seeing if democrats hold honest primaries.
Or primaries at all.
Continue to pretend that every criticism from your left is from your right. It makes it easier to blame the left you hate when you lose to the right you admire.
Tim Walz unleashed would have won this.
He was hamstrug by Harris. He’s likely the dem’s best choice for 2028.
So of course they’ll run Newsome or Shapiro or Hillary Clinton again because they’re a bunch of idiots.
And Harris was hamstrung by Biden.
She could have been better.
She is a cop. She dropped out in 15th place in the 2020 primary before she was embarrassed in her home state of California. They should have never ran her and that's why they didn't do a primary.
Fuckin should have been the nominee in the first place - him or Sanders.
Give me AOC or Bernie.
Bernie's going to be almost 90 years old by then
Thinking there is going to be a real election in 2028 is the most optimistic thing I've heard in a while.
Bold of him to assume there will be elections in 2028.
Walz was great in 2024. He had enthusiasm and actually answered the interviewers' questions. I would have preferred the symbolic victory of a black woman president, but I like Walz better as an individual person. I think he could have won if he'd been the presidential candidate. Well, Harris won too, but I mean he could have won even with the voter suppression stealing all those democratic votes.
President Walz and Vice President Cortez is the future we need. But probably not the future we'll get.
Personally, I'm hoping Zelensky will run for US president after strong Dien in Ukraine. You might be thinking that someone from another country can't be president. Well.... looks at current situation in White House At least this one would be elected.
It's cute that they think there's gonna be another election.
He's got some things going for him. Male. Presumably heterosexual. Caucasian. Old (but perhaps not quite old enough). I say go for it.
He's got the stink of Biden/Harris on him, but he's got four years to wash that off.
Let's see if he does, or if he thinks cozeying up to establishment Dems is the ticket to victory.
We could do (and have done) a lot worse. My only concern is whether or not he has the backbone to refuse to be steered to the right, the way Kamala was after the convention. His Midwestern politeness definitely didn't serve him well in the debate.
Not my 1st choice, but will vote for any democrat, no matter what. I’d prefer that every republican fuck off and die, painfully.
I'd vote for him but he'd need to ignore the consultants next time if he wants any hope of winning.
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