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Wisconsin resident Bradley Bartell voted for Trump's promise to crack down on "criminal illegal immigrants," but now his Peruvian wife Camila Muñoz has been detained by ICE.

Muñoz, from Peru, overstayed her visa but had applied for legal residency. On their way home from a honeymoon, immigration agents detained her at a Puerto Rico airport.

Despite no criminal record, she remains in a Louisiana detention center. Her case reflects ICE’s broadened enforcement that now includes documented immigrants.

Bartell, once supportive of stricter immigration policies, now questions the impact on families like his own.

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[-] TomMasz@lemmy.world 78 points 2 weeks ago

You shouldn't have to have it happen to you before you realize the impact it has on others, but that's what we're up against.

[-] dan1101@lemm.ee 41 points 2 weeks ago

Empathy takes a little thought and many people just can't think.

[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

I once saw it described on Lemmy that Conservatives have sympathy but no empathy.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

I saw a Ted talk that talked about inability to entertain the hypothetical. Some people are simply unable to entertain the hypothetical "what if my wife is deported', they can only recognize it when it becomes "my wife is being deported ".

[-] uuldika@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago

I've heard that some people have difficulty with hypotheticals in general. not just on political issues, like it's a surprisingly common cognitive issue.

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[-] sowitzer@lemm.ee 21 points 2 weeks ago

From the article I don’t get a sense he is at all questioning his vote. He feels his case is special and the government messed up. For him. She’s vetted, so it’s ok. The others deserve what they are getting.

[-] Astra@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 weeks ago

Yep. Brackets by me:

[Him and his wife] have been thinking a lot about [his] vote for Trump.

"I knew they were cracking down," he said. "I guess I didn’t know how it was going down."

He imagined the administration would target people who snuck over the border and weren't vetted

But his wife, "they know who she is and where she came from," he said. "They need to get the vetting done and not keep these people locked up. It doesn’t make any sense."

The dumbfuck doesn't show any contrition at all, he just says oops I didn't know. When this topic came up in the interview, he didn't admit any regret or that he put himself (and his wife) in this position - he just says that the government is wrong to do this to him/his wife, and that they should go after other illegals instead. What a piece of shit.

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[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe a controversial opinion but I don’t think anyone belongs in an ICE detention centre regardless of who their spouse voted for. I don’t think this is funny.

[-] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Haven't you heard? Empathy is a sin and the weakness of Western civilization. It's what a true conservative would want.

[-] Rooty@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Empathy and goodwill aren't infinite, like any resource they can be depleted. I really cannot muster enough fucks to give about someone who voted for that turd a second time. Feel sorry for his wife, though.

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[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago

I hate how many people are this fucking stupid.

[-] papertowels@mander.xyz 35 points 2 weeks ago

"They're hurting the wrong people!!"

[-] Ronno@feddit.nl 33 points 2 weeks ago

This reads like the post Brexit articles. What do people expect to happen when they vote for something?

[-] ScoreDivision@programming.dev 20 points 2 weeks ago

I didn't think leopards would eat my face

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[-] veniasilente@lemm.ee 29 points 2 weeks ago

I'd feel sorry for the guy but that would be both insincere and incorrect. After all, he got exactly what he voted for.

[-] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

EDIT: Sorry this wasn't meant to be a novel. If I had more time it would have been shorter.

I understand not feeling bad for THE GUY. But you should absolutely feel bad for his wife. Moral values should not be conditional. I could have an undocumented immigrant cus me out and say "TRUMP IS AWESOME" and I'd still not want that guy to be deported for no reason. I know its a slightly satisfying "you got what was coming to you". But being leftist in any sense means staying true to your convictions and not falling for this type of reactionary response no matter how satisfying it is.

I've used this as an example before.

I want even KKK members to get free healthcare in the US. Because as much as I hate KKK members my leftist principles tell me that right wing reactionary ideas thrive in poor material conditions. Conditions on these fundamental leftist principles will not stand. The "got what was coming to them" response is absolutely a reactionary idea. These are conditions of revenge and not conditions of justice. They have no place in left wing principles.

You can absolutely enjoy the slight sense of irony and satisfaction from this snippet. But, at the end of the day, you're not saying anything different then "let's deport these immigrants because X" just like the right is. Its the same as saying "these brown people deserve to be treated badly because they didn't vote for Harris". It's insane reactionary ideas masking itself as leftism.

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[-] Etterra@discuss.online 28 points 2 weeks ago

Good. It sucks for her, but Trump voters don't deserve to have happy lives.

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[-] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 27 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 26 points 2 weeks ago

Aren't these people guys with guns who fantasize about fighting tyranny? Well this is your fucking chance to shine, sweetheart!

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

It's almost as if being a racist douchebag is bad for everyone........

[-] missandry351@lemmings.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

Well, can’t say trump isn’t keeping my the promises he made when on campaign

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Imagine being an immigrate and marrying a Trump supporter. Should we feel sorry for her? Because I feel no sympathy for him.

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[-] Tezzerets_Tea_Time@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Good. I hope he's fucking devastated. I hope his entire world is fucking crumbling. Everyone with three working braincells or more knew exactly what would happen if we let the christonationalist fascists have total control of the government, and pieces of subhuman trash like him willingly made it happen.

[-] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago
[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 weeks ago

I pity Madam but I have little sympathy for Sir.

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

I hate that as americans were so stupid we have to learn like this because we can't hear people out before it gets to this point.

[-] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Like I believe one of your founding fathers Benjamin Franklin said: "Experience holds a dear school, but fools learn from no other"

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[-] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Well that's what decades of destroying education will do

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[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Hold the fuck up, she was already OVERSTAYING her Visa and these idiots thought it was a good idea to TRAVEL? Nah they both got what they fucking deserved. It doesn't matter that you're awaiting your residency application, you have already passed your exit date, why the fuck would you be traveling for your honeymoon

Edit: I'm literally standing in the airport awaiting my fiance's return from Mexico right now, this shit makes all the people who actually read their paperwork and follow the rules, look bad when they get lumped in with these idiots.

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[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago

Another fucking idiot whose ignorance helped inflict Trump on us.

[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Damn, it's almost enough to make you think every single Trump supporter is an ignorant idiot absolutely devoid of any concept of forethought.

[-] stevegiblets@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

I will never not be amazed at the hatred and stupidity at the heart of MAGA

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[-] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

I honestly believe these idiots that voted for Trump somehow thought that they would be immune to his policies. He doesn't give a fuck about you.

[-] marzhall@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

For sure. It's the classic:

Tweet that says, "I never thought the leopards would eat my face" says woman who voted for the leopards eating people's faces party

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[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder if she knew he was actively supporting the politics of people that hate her.

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[-] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 16 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] bunnyjenkins@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

These shithead said out loud what they would do - so he is mad because he voted for what trump said he would do. What a dipshit. Sorry, you don't get s Oops this time.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

These clowns always pull up the ladder after they "get theirs." Marry an immigrant and think you're safe? Vote to get rid of the ones you don't like via a Dictator. Dictators turn on their supporters sooner or later, for them it was sooner. Wait until he comes for the guns. He's the only president that has said guns should be taken away.

E: Getting lots of gateway timeouts for .world, anyone else? I'm in the US.

[-] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 weeks ago

"but... it shouldn't have affected ME, you know?"

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[-] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

The one bit that’s not being mentioned: they detained her from a flight from Puerto Rico, which is a US protectorate. Does that mean flights from other US states are now being examined by border and customs?

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[-] dumptruck@lemmings.world 12 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Thoughts and prayers

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