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[-] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

For server hosting it's the only way to go.

Gaming has improved significantly, although it's rather frustrating that it's by all these compatibility layers and such rather than native run.

For desktop, as a workstation and general purpose it's 'ok' with rough edges. Things like (limited tests with a couple common distros like Ubuntu/Mint/Bazzite) the nextcloud app not supporting virtual files that have been available for a while in Windows and domain auth being twitchy where I've tried.

For the end user a big part is being able to just find an app and use it, no compiling or tweaking of settings needed for it to do what's expected. Package managers help greatly, but with the huge number of distros out there it makes it really hit and miss to say just go for it. The relatively few times you can just download a Linux version of an app from a site (as people are prone to doing if they go read about something on the web) you often would have to go chmod +x it and quite possibly have to run it from a CLI rather than just click the downloaded app.

So usable yes, but in a place where I could just drop it on someone and say go to town less so...

[-] lowleveldata@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

For server hosting it’s the only way to go.

How I wish

[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

It’s like someone’s never used GroupPolicy.

[-] Hawke@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

As much of a shit show as it is, group policy is really the killer feature of Windows.

[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Tried it again a few months ago when HDR support first dropped in KDE. It didn't work at all. Everything was desaturated and dim. Literally the opposite of what HDR is supposed to do.

I'm giving it another year before I try Linux again. Hopefully the bugs are sorted by then.

[-] cdk@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago

I've been using Endeavour with KDE and HDR on for almost a year. I had to install the "vk-hdr-layer-kwin6-git" package and now HDR works on desktop and in mpv/smplayer/haruna for both hdr10 and DV content. Games also work, but they require some steam launch arguments which aren't exactly user friendly.

Ideally this will "just work" in The Future™...

[-] No_Bark@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

I'm on EndeavourOS trying to get some Steam games to work with HDR, would you mind pointing me towards some information on these launch arguments you mentioned? I'd like to see if I can get it working. Thanks!

[-] cdk@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago

Absolutely! I recommend reading through wiki.archlinux.org/title/KDE#HDR and at the moment I am playing through The Witcher 3 with these launch options I got from someone in a review on protondb.com: "mangohud VKD3D_DISABLE_EXTENSIONS=VK_KHR_present_wait gamescope -f --force-grab-cursor --hdr-enabled -W 3840 -H 2160 -- %command% --launcher-skip". Not everything here is necessary, but AFAIK to get HDR support in Steam games you have to launch the game with gamescope. So be sure you have that installed as well. I played about half of Ghost of Tsushima without HDR before I got it working and noticed the difference right away, but Witcher 3 is a good test because of the in-game HDR settings menu. I'm guessing that menu is unavailable if you don't have HDR correctly configured, so it's easy to see if it works.

As I mentioned, not exactly user friendly! I also have a glitch that happens if my HDR monitor is turned on after boot, or has turned off bc of power saving and I turn it back on. I get artifacting when a program goes fullscreen. My fix is turning off and on HDR on that monitor. Good luck!

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[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago

I am one of these people.

Last I used the desktop was 1996: modelines, xfree86 errors, etc. Not since. I've used Linux every day of the last 30 years, 28 as a pro. It's fed me, housed me, delighted me and frustrated me.

But even when I worked at a distro that shipped two Unix variants and an Enterprise Linux distro of its own, everyone at the shop was on windows 98se and vandyke for ssh. It was simply more reliable for the tiny use case and the time : we didn't want Devel upended because the team had a crashing wm, and our use case was Mozilla, VanDyke, WinAMP. Really-really.

Do I understand it's improved since then? Of course. Do I want to support my mom running Linux desktop or run it myself? The thought frightens me to my core. I don't have time in my day for the added hassle when we just need SeaMonkey, zoom, and (for me) putty and WoW.

But win10 is dying, and ImTiredBoss.jpg of learning the shit of a new MS desktop every goddamned time so I can coach them over the phone as their eyesight and hearing declines like my patience. This year stands a good chance of seeing my return to a Linux desktop and theirs too.

Wow works, right?

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

Wow works, right?

Apparently even Curseforge runs on Linux so you can keep your addons up to date. (I couldn't run WoW without bucketloads of addons, dunno about you.) I haven't tried yet though, I've been playing other games lately, but I'm glad to know that it's supposed to work just fine when I get around to it.

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[-] steeznson@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

If you want to see what linux was like 15 years ago try installing OpenBSD lol

[-] Fluxxr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

Is there a use case that makes openBSD desirable? I’ve heard of it but don’t know the main selling point

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Simplicity in all the good and bad ways. They also claim to be more secure but I'm not sure if that really applies anymore.

Many security-related things started as an OpenBSD project, like openssh. They don't shy away from making drastic decisions for the sake of quality. For instance, in 2014 when they noticed their bluetooth stack or bluetooth as a concept sort of sucked, they didn't rewrite it. They removed it. I don't think it has been rewritten yet.

[-] uranibaba@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Wait, so no Bluetooth is better than bad Bluetooth?

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[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago

So, which distro is the ready one?

[-] _carmin@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago

Strange, because in this thread alone I have seen recommendations for PopOS, Arch, Mint Cinnamon, EndeavorOS, Bazzite, NixOS, and Ubuntu.

Even ZorinOS got a mention.

So why isn't it Debian?

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

So why isn't it Debian?

As a ride or die Debian fan, I can answer this:

A lot of really nice updates happened in the last year, and we're not going to see a lot of them in Debian stable until 2 or 3 years from today.

If you're already running Debian, you'll probably just be delighted when they reach Debian stable.

But if I'm recommending a "how's Linux today?" test, grab something that already includes the latest quality of life features. There's been some really nice stuff added to Gnome and KDE and various Flatpaks, this year.

Edit: In about two years I'll probably be back to saying "forget all that, just run Debian Stable, because the very best stuff is already there."

Of course, if the current trend of great updates continues another two years, I may have to eat my words, lol.

[-] vandsjov@feddit.dk 0 points 2 weeks ago

Edit: In about two years I’ll probably be back to saying “forget all that, just run Debian Stable, because the very best stuff is already there.”

Then there will just be some other stuff that has been developed that people want ;-)

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 0 points 2 weeks ago

Then there will just be some other stuff that has been developed that people want ;-)

Yeah. As a "DOS was good enough" person, I honestly didn't expect so exited for all the updates in Gnome this year. But the Gnome team is on a hot streak. I really may get to eat my "Debian stable is all I need" words again in a few years.

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[-] skibidi@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

I love Linux, but it isn't ready.

Two weeks ago my side mouse buttons started working (they require Logitech software on Windows, wasn't expecting them to work). Last week they stopped. This week they work again.

Is this major? Not at all. Would it drive my mother-in-law into a rage rivaling that of Cocaine Bear? Absolutely. Spare me from the bear, keep Linux for the tinkerers.

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