We know Cons have paid troll farms. And are being supported by India China and Russia who brought their own cheap troll farms.

That's pretty much the exact same propaganda that's been getting fomented for the past two years already. There's a certain percentage of Canada that's deep in this pipeline which starts with "shared" commiseration. And there's a much larger percentage that was casually and uncritically going with the flow until all the events of this year prompted them to wake the fuck up.

Before, you could look at the comment section of any news video on YouTube and see thousands of comments from amateur pundits regurgitating in poetic detail how the world was ending -- and pity the poor soul who dare push back even a little. Yanking the focal point of their blame-seeking made them falter. Then, mid-stumble, the sudden prospect of real hardship powerfully re-contextualized their exaggerated woes.

Now, the same news channels still have endless right-wing talking points in the comments. But the messaging is shorter with less substance, and it's getting challenged more with weaker response to the challenges. On top of that, the percentage of participating accounts that are a few months old or less is substantially higher. I believe what's happening is long-running destabilization ops are, if anything, redoubling their efforts. It isn't enough to replace the decimated magnification by useful idiots.

I've paid considerably less attention to comment sections of mainstream news sites, but at first blush the pattern there seems less pronounced but similar, if there's enough volume to even sample.

I don't have the capacity to do large-scale traffic analysis across many platforms and communities, so this is pretty much all loose anecdotal evidence. Since social friction still naturally pushes the majority of people to wherever their views are shared, not even flipping a quarter of the nation's views is enough to visibly collapse or transform the nature of individual internet silos. They are, after all, still shaped by the loudest and generally stupidest voices that often aren't even human let alone authentic.

TLDR: What RandAlThor said so much more succinctly. 😏

This is why we can't give boomers and kids full access to the internet. They see this shit, and even though a good chunk are likely Russian bots, they adopt it as reality and bring it into the real world.

it's well established that Russian bots run /drive most of the content on r/Canada on reddit.

Honestly, it just makes Carney seem even better at handling Trump so if that was his intention, I’d say it backfired

Guy lives in a fantasy land where everyone around him just says "yes, more please" no matter what the question is. His life is just a game of pretend.

I'm guessing Trump knows he's cancer and is trying to tank Carney's campaign by pretending they're besties (while exchanging secret love letters with Small PP of course)

He said the Liberals have made Canada too dependent on the U.S

That was the conservatives who forced us into NAFTA.

Maybe it was the heavy lobbying by the US to kill the Prince Rupert pipeline so we didn't have capacity to ship crude to China? Is it that sort of thing that's made us dependent on US trade? Maybe something like that?

Maybe it was them letting the Huawei exec leave the US then demanding we arrest her on Canadian soil and brought around the Chinese hostage diplomacy crisis and tanking trade relationships with China for years to this day. I'm sure he remembers that, he was the President when that piece of diplomatic sabotage was perpetrated. Maybe it's that?

I imagine they're trying to come up with some way to break us off from Europe right now so we stay helpless and isolated. Be very fucking suspicious of anything that comes out of the US right now. Luckily, I think Europe is well enough aware of the games they play and are going to stick with us, but we'll see, I guess. China is certainly taking their shots while they can.

I'm already seeing signs of Dumpster being the one to bend the knee. While responding to questions about this, he dialed the rhetoric way back, instead pivoting away from his promise of more tariffs to "nice talk" and then other nations entirely. When was the last time he said 51st state, or Canada isn't viable? Now it's Vance on the sidelines claiming we can't win, which is relatively weak talk for him too -- and sounding increasingly less believable.

None of this means Dumpster won't flip back any moment, but it does imply we gained the upper hand and even more clearly than before. Every time that happens, it gets easier for us to hold our ground. Carney was probably already confident enough to stand firm for a lot longer and against still more intense brinksmanship anyway. But this will settle the nerves of Canadians who've neither the experience nor the mettle to patiently trust and back our PM as the economic effects become more and more real.

Conversely, every time Dumpster goes back on the offensive, we get more familiar with the cycle and confident that our response will at least buy more time and soften the impact, if not just make him look more the fool when he has to back off again. If Dumpster thought he had the upper hand right now, he'd be gloating rather than deflecting. He caved, again, and with less room to save face than before. At this point I'm more worried this crisis will "go to waste" and we'll lose the drive to follow through with our internal reformation.

There's certainly room for me to be misreading the situation, but I think Carney's in control now. The longer it takes for us to hear the next "51st state" comment, the more sure I'll be. My best guess after that would be Carney's some kind of dark horse and Dumpster actually wants him to win the election. But that's master-level 4D chess, and I've yet to see a single prediction on that basis fulfilled. He played his part so well that if there is a master plan, Dumpster isn't in on it.

No, I think Carney confidently and firmly said something the average Canadian couldn't even hear without breaking a sweat, and even Dumpster could tell a) he wasn't going to get an inch, and b) circumstances have made still clearer that we have the longer runway. Now he needs to delay (again), and I think he'll shake it up by making those 25% tariffs start much lower with automatic ramping over time. That way he can make it look a little less like he caved because they technically still started them on April 2nd.

Or US..only him