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[-] gamer@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

Anyone have the story behind this? Fuck Microsoft and all that, but Github has historically been pretty good when it comes to not banning people for stupid reasons. Usually, it's a DMCA thing or a valid security threat.

Recently, there was some controversy about closed source code powering a component of the project (https://github.com/orgs/organicmaps/discussions/9837) but I didn't keep up with that. Could this ban be related to that?

[-] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago

Some contributer got flagged by US sanctions based on their IP, I think

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago

Welcome to the "free world".

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[-] britaliope@kourjetez.bzh 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

can someone make a quick intro to what happends for microsoft to block organicmaps account ?

[-] ipacialsection@startrek.website 0 points 3 months ago

Going by their Mastodon account, seems they were erroneously detected as "from a US-sanctioned region" and it took too long for said error to be resolved, so they just made the switch.

[-] latsss@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago

"US sanctioned region" is russia. The developer team fully consist of russian citizens, some of them are still in russia.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The developer team fully consist of russian citizens

I dont think thats correct. Do you have a source? The predecessor that it was forked from maps.me maybe, but the current dev team has nothing to do with that project anymore.

[-] latsss@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago

I was wrong, not entirely, but 6-7 out of 10. Had to doublecheck. https://github.com/orgs/organicmaps/people

And there's a wiki page on maps.me(founders are the same, they just sold it and forked a few years later to create organicmaps) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maps.me

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The only person on this list that lives in Russia is Alexey Naumenko. So what are you yappin about? So far i also cant see that name on the new member list https://git.omaps.dev/org/organicmaps/members

mapsme: founded by Yury Melnichek, later joined by Alexander Borsuk and Viktor Govako

organicmaps: founded by Roman Tsisyk (completely unrelated to mapsme) and later joined by Alexander Borsuk and Viktor Govako

So the founders are not the same, but some devs from the old project joined organic maps.

[-] latsss@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not really nice of you to edit the message after it was replied to.

Changing your github profile location does not mean neither factual relocation, nor changing citizenship.

yappin

Just adding context, because thir wording makes everyone think like "out of the blue, by some stupid coincidence one of the developers possibly seemed to be somewhere around some misteruous sanctioned region"

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not really nice of you to edit the message after it was replied to.

I didnt...

My last edit was at: Saturday, March 29th, 2025 at 9:34:06 AM GMT+01:00

Your comment was posted at: Saturday, March 29th, 2025 at 9:45:53 AM GMT+01:00

Changing your github profile location does not mean neither factual relocation, nor changing citizenship.

Then where are you getting 6-7 from? Those people could be Polish or Ukrainian or born somewhere completely different. They could have moved, changed citizenship, whatever. I dont know. You dont know.

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[-] Safipok@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

Aren't they now based in Estonia since when the company was established?

[-] latsss@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago

They can be de jure in Estonia and de facto wherever they want.

E.g OnlyOffice claim to be based in baltics too, but the development office is still in Nizhniy Novgorod(russia).

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[-] rarbg@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This post is stupid. The whole reason they are blocked is because Russia invaded ukraine, so the US sanctioned them, so Russian developers can't use Github, not because "microsoft bad" (true but irrelevant in this case) but because Microsoft is legally obligated to block them.

Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.

Honestly after this post I will avoid Organic maps. More like genocide-complicit maps amirite.

[-] kava@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

The US supplied 80% of the bombs dropped on Gaza.

Do you believe US civilians should be prohibited from interacting with the rest of the world?

[-] rarbg@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago

but_what_about_.jpg

Do you believe US civilians should be prohibited from interacting with the rest of the world?

Yes...? Why haven't other countries sanctioned the US for Gaza genocide? But that's also not the point at hand.

[-] kava@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

but_what_about_.jpg

whataboutism isn't some magical phrase that you can utter every time someone brings up hypocrisy

if we're going to support sanctioning civilians based on their countries breaking international law, then we should not have double standards. otherwise it's very clear to anyone paying attention that this is a geopolitical issue and not a moral one.

and that's what this is actually about. the US sanctions on Russia are a geopolitical tool meant to make the Russian re-subjugation of Ukraine more expensive. that's it. US doesn't actually care about Ukraine- neither this administration or the last.

to me, that doesn't justify banning individuals from participating in OSS projects. anybody that wants to contribute should be able to.

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