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Summary

White House aides are anxious ahead of Donald Trump's "Liberation Day" announcement on Tuesday, expecting new "reciprocal tariffs" but lacking clear details.

Even key figures like VP J.D. Vance and Chief of Staff Susie Wiles remain uncertain. An insider told Politico, "No one knows what the f--k is going on."

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and adviser Kevin Hassett said tariffs would target 10–15 countries, but Trump contradicted them, claiming all countries would face tariffs.

The confusion and internal contradictions have sparked fears of economic fallout and political backlash.

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[-] CallMeButtLove@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

I'll bet you Putin knows precisely what's going on.

[-] Tronn4@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Course! He wrote it

[-] ToadOfHypnosis@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago

Dementia Don is unpredictable. He has been the entire time. These people are somehow still surprised.

[-] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 13 points 1 month ago

I think a big part of the problem is the media sanewashes him so a lot of people don't see the crazy.

[-] Today@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Try reading a transcript of anything he says. It's just enough gibberish for people to hear whatever they want.

[-] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 month ago

At this point we can consider ourselves lucky if he doesn't straight up announce the annexation of either Canada or Greenland.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago

I honestly think it will be this.

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

That’s what I’m expecting. The optimist in me thinks he could pull an amnesia on wensday about tariffs to right the economy. But probably just invade Greenland or something

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 month ago

Which would be an illegal order that wouldn't be followed.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

You mean like pretty much every order he has given that has been followed??

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 month ago

What illegal orders has the army been given? None.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

You mean like the the unsanction invasion of Iraq under the false pretense of WMD?... No, that never happened

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 month ago
[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Oh so your claim is that Trumps's illegal orders would be refused? Not illegal orders from other presidents? OK my bad

I guess the illegal deportations would be my answer then... Aren't these done with military planes?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

In theory it wouldn't be followed.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

With how mixed together the US and Canadian armies are, the grunts would probably rather shoot the people giving the order instead of following them. You might have some MAGA soldiers, but that just means that instead of fighting "the enemy" the US Army will end up fighting itself.

[-] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago

What legally constitutes an illegal order? I wonder if this would qualify. Certainly, I should hope it does.

[-] afronaut@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 month ago

Trump is going to start WWIII and form a wartime coalition government that “postpones” our election process in the meantime. There may be no midterms.

[-] Chappy@infosec.pub 10 points 1 month ago

The speedrun into economic and social collapse continues as scheduled...I never thought I'd be alive to see the (very much self-inflicted) downfall of the country I was raised to love. This truly makes my soul ache.

[-] shawn1122@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think those outside the US figured it was only a matter of time. The US voting population has only become more disengaged and the country has created and is the epicenter of most social media misinformation campaigns.

The US pulled itself out of the great depression first through regulation via the new deal and then by selling military equipment to allied nations during WW2 (essentially leveraging its geographical isolation during the war). Its been addicted to making and selling military equipment since then, in part due to the cold war but I think we can all agree there have been a few wars along the way that were essentially treated as test runs.

Hoover's nearly 50% tariff on agriculture stretched the depression out by a few years. If we take history as any indication, tariffs are typically either a buildup to complete economic collapse or to a public bailout. One of those seems more likely than the other now. What would a 21st century 'New Deal' even look like?

What would a 21st century ‘New Deal’ even look like?

It could look identical to the original. Restore the capital gains and high-income tax rates. Do all the infrastructure investments over again with modern tech (high speed and light rail, renewable energy, desalination, etc)

Fair labor standards 2.0, with 32 hour workweek, guaranteed leave, triple the minimum wage, and medicare for all. The last one should save small business more than enough money and administrative overhead to pay for the rest, but tax incentives for small businesses will help too.

Reinforce the national labor relations and social security acts. Create the political transparency act to overturn citizens united. Throw out the parties and the political bribery entirely if you can, if you can't, limit and publicize it. Tax 1-5% of all political donations over X dollars, and feed all of it into social security and medicare. All of federal legislature, executive, and judiciary now gets their salary from social security and their healthcare from medicare.

This wouldn't really save the world, but it should be enough to keep the US going until we find better answers. Obviously there's no guarantees we could find the political capital to get any of this done, even in the Great Depression 2: electric boogaloo.

[-] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Trump is the one with raging dementia this time

[-] redlemace@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

A loose cannon

[-] belly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

My assumption is he lets the tariffs play out more than a day or two this time. He might see how bad it gets first before he pulls back.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

I hope his phone call after the announcement isn't..."Hey Vlad! Vlad! I invaded something!"

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