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[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Driving is the highest-risk activity that the average person engages in on the average day.

It's dangerous, stressful, time-consuming, and expensive. I also think it is a significant contributing factor to our sedentary lifestyles and expanding waistlines. I'm resentful that the decision to go with automobile-based infrastructure was decided before I was even born and that I've never had a viable opportunity to vote against it.

What I really hate is that driving is a privilege. But not needing to drive (i.e. walkability, bikeability, and good transit) are also privileges. Fucked either way it would seem.

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago

There never was a vote to make it legal or illegal. And it was widely hailed as a great idea at the time. It was considered the best way for large cities to dig out from under the literal mountains of horse shit they were drowning in and that was polluting the ground water and killing children and adults alike from disease. Plus it gave people far more freedom to move about faster and father than they had by foot, horse, or train. Like it or not, the internal combustion engine has given you, personally, everything good and bad that you have at this very moment in time.

But, like most great human ideas, there are always unintended consequences no one sees until they happen.

[-] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Actually, there was a lot of push-back. People weren't too happy that suddenly great big hunks of metal were hurling through public spaces at lethal speeds -- but the car manufactures had money, so the press and the politicians sided with them.

check out Fighting Traffic: The Dawn of the Motor Age in the American City by Peter D. Norton

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[-] trilobyte81@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Sure but now it is holding us back we need a nationwide high speed train network we are stuck in the 1930s while lots of other countries are in the 2030s

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I actually like driving for the most part, and I think that I'd like it even more if people who weren't forced to drive weren't driving, and if the people driving were well-trained and medically cleared as safe to drive.

If we had those things I could do a hundred miles an hour on the highway everywhere. It would be awesome.

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

I think that I’d like it even more if people who weren’t forced to drive weren’t driving,

I actually don't mind driving so much as I mind driving in heavy traffic. Driving along on an empty road, or lighter traffic at least, isn't so bad.

But society pretty much forces everyone to drive. Even people who don't want to drive or are simply bad at it.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Now imagine if everyone you met on those low-traffic days knew how to zipper merge, and were intimately familiar with the idea of "keep right, pass left." And their cars had to be maintained perfectly to even be on the road.

This training and maintenance is why some sections of the Autobahn have no speed limit.

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[-] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 weeks ago

Let's be real: they're terrified that they might be forced to be near poor people, minorities, gays, and mentally ill folk.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 points 2 weeks ago

Bingo. I've talked to many of them online and it always boils down to this. It's never that they're actually in any danger. It's just they feel scared. They drive their big trucks because it makes them feel safe.

Meanwhile puny me rides the subway daily.

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[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Their “News ^tm^” is constantly telling them cities are hellholes full of junkies and murderers and murderous junkies.

Most of them have no clue how the world outside their pickup truck windows works.

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[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

I've never almost died on a bus.

[-] gt5@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

I ride the subway all the time and haven’t been murdered yet. AMA

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] needanke@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

So you are the one doing the murders then?

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'm more terrified of driving a car in a city than on a highway. In a city one small mistake can mean killing a child or something. On the highway I can go at a moderate speed in the right lane without distractions.

Either way I prefer rails tho

[-] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

Already afraid of this on an e bike.

Saw a mom walking on the road (next to a perfectly available sidewalk) with her small child following her 2 meters behind her.

Fucking hell if that kid randomly ran to my side, I would have hit her.

I hate this shit so much

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I'm kinda germaphobic, and they never seem to clean public transit. Chewed gum everywhere, littering, bodily fluids. Like I'm sure 99% of people are normal, but just 1% of dumbasses ruin it. NYC, Philly, I've seen it all. I heard people say other countries such as Japan has clean public transit, not sure why the US can't do the same... 🤔 (I bet the politicians stole all the funding)

My ideal transport would be getting launched out of a cannon, then I deploy a parachute after the GPS notifies me when I've arrived at the destination. Patachute deployed, I land on the roof, like a boss. 😎

Great for introverts too. 🫠

(So until public transit is fixed, I rather be fired... out of a cannon)

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[-] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

but there's crazy people on the subway

You don't think there's crazy people on the highway? And on the highway they're controlling a 2 ton killing machine in a sometimes stressful situation.

I'll take the crazy guy yelling in the corner of the subway then see what he's like behind the wheel of one of those huge pickup trucks during traffic.

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[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'm terrified of riding the nyc subway because I don't understand how it works amd I'll get lost.

[-] Willy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

its really well designed and easy. with a smartphone, navigating the city is so easy I think a 10yo could do it. that said, my parents might have trouble, but only cause they get freaked out.

[-] Toribor@corndog.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

I grew up on a farm, basically the rural part of a rural county in a rural state. When I visited San Diego I got on a bus going the wrong direction (which isn't a thing I even realized you could do wrong). Ended up having to wait an hour for another bus in a sketchy part of town, at night, while in cosplay.

Felt like that episode of SpongeBob where they get stuck at Rock Bottom.

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[-] sfu@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

I can't speak for NY, but...

In Los Angeles I used the busses, subway, and trains for two to three years going to work. For one year it was an hour each way riding 2 trains. After that, it was 2.5 hours each way switching between busses and trains five times.

While I truly appreciated the Metro, it was often not fun. Usually everything and everyone was fine. But, at times I'd be riding with drugged up dangerous acting people. Other times just super annoying people. Sometimes the trains would be packed shoulder to shoulder full of people. And sometimes, in the middle of LA, the train would stop, and say "everybody off" without an explanation, and everyone would exit the train and have to figure out where to go.

Once I was able to drive myself, I no longer had to worry about any of the issues I had before. All I had to deal with was traffic jams. Annoying, but I did feel safer.

[-] turmoil@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, but LA has a shitty public transport system.

Take a look at any major European city. Subway systems with a train interval of 2 minutes that get you across the whole city in 40 minutes max.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

I've done both.

Safest place in the subway is at the front of the first car near the motorman. Second best is the front of the second car. If there's trouble you can move to the first car [with the motorman easily] and have two doors between you and the troublemaker.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago

Public transport is directly correlated with ridership numbers. When using public transport is the best mobility option, then everyone from all backgrounds will use it and that leads to less bullshit being done.

The numbers are pretty early but the congestion pricing in NYC has apparently already led to less crime in the subway.

The latest Climate Town vid is great.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

You also shouldn’t use your phone if you’re right near the doors. It’s too easy for someone to grab it and exit the car as the doors close.

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

The fact that this kind of thinking is necessary makes me so sad and angry for you.

Yeah. On my city’s light rail I can literally leave my phone charging next to my seat when I go to the bathroom and no one will take it. In fact it’s common for people to do that.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

Our public transit doesn’t have bathrooms or phone chargers :(

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[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Meanwhile:

https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/04/04/two-teens-stabbed-in-bronx-subway-station-robbery/ (yesterday)

https://pix11.com/news/local-news/manhattan/woman-raped-inside-nyc-subway-station-nypd/ (Mar 17)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/man-slashed-on-nyc-subway-by-maniac-with-large-knife-cops-say/ar-AA1AZyGL (2w ago)

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/queens/pregnant-woman-punched-in-face-on-rush-hour-nyc-subway-train-sources-say/6174141/ (Mar 5)

Sure, crime has gone down recently in the subway to pre-pandemic levels, but there was still shit like this regularly pre-pandemic too. Definitely wouldn't leave your anything alone on the subway in NYC.

Also afaik (been a while) there is no bathroom for you to worry about leaving your stuff, people just piss in the subway cars themselves.

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[-] Nangijala@feddit.dk 2 points 2 weeks ago

I used to be a big fan of public transport, but after covid it went to shit in my country or rather, it went to shit in my part of the country. Pretty sure it is still great in Copenhagen. Those lucky bastards.

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[-] Biggles@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 weeks ago

Either way you risk a possibility of being rear-ended.

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