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A little rant about lemmy.ml
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The people replying on your comment aren't even from lemmy.ml
Where you see a user name with an instance after, the instance is one with access to the same content. Lots of users access the big insurances.
you have to understand that some of this people have extremist beliefs because they are poor and resent those who are doing better than them. so having a car makes you a target. edit: as you can see they resent my comment but have no arguments against it.
you can give them a chance if you want but the moment they show their colors you should just block them and move on. the world is full of resentful people. you can usually look at their comment history and see it's getting close to being worth reporting to the fbi in some cases.
If that's your argument, you should add that you doing better has nothing to do with your individual actions. Otherwise you just sound like a billionaire fanboy.
As someone who “crawled out of a shithole” i can accept that “luck” or circumstance plays a big role. But if you are not born privileged and you grasp what’s important to do better and put effort (and the circumstances allow it) then your efforts are as crucial as putting them in the right place which might be impossible to accomplish for most.
For that reason I cannot agree with dismissing my individual actions.
Of course your efforts can get you into a better place. But it's also completely possible to put effort in and get screwed over anyways. And it's possible that someone puts no efforts in but suddenly wins in the lottery. Efforts matter, but they dont guarantee anything.
I don't disagree that systemic factors play a huge role, but individual actions can definitely contribute a lot as well. A family member of mine grew up dirt poor in a developing country but worked their ass off to save money to move to the US, worked their ass off more and is now in the top of their field, owns a house, multiple cars, paid for their kids college, etc. Luck almost certainly played a part (and choosing the right field to go into) and it's obviously the case that a lot of people who work hard all their life are never able to get out of poverty, but individual actions can definitely contribute to moving up the socioeconomic ladder. It certainly shouldn't be the only factor, though, as conservatives and the rich want it to be.
Of course you are right and they can contribute a lot in an individual person's life. But when you look at the statistics, there are numbers on economic freedom of moving into an upper class of where you start with.
And some countries are good in that regard. Some countries are very very bad in that regard.
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You can't just say it was non offensive and non political, you should share what it is you said and let us make our own judgement.
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this post was submitted on 30 Sep 2023
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