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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by MagneticFusion@lemm.ee to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

I like a lot of the communities on that instance, but every once in a while I just get hit with a random wave of toxicity by them for no reason. For example, there was a post asking which communities from Reddit do you wish existed on Lemmy, and I answered honestly saying more car related communities as they are one of my hobbies, and I got severely downvoted and got replied to with "there is a FuckCars community" There are other times in the past where something similar happened in a lemmy.ml community, where I said something that was 100% non-offensive, non-argumentative, and non-political but got mass down voted for no reason. I have not had this problem anywhere else however. Does anyone else have a similar experience or no?

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[-] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 92 points 1 year ago
  1. Stop caring about 'votes'

  2. Don't caring about what people you don't want to hear from. Just block them.

[-] gullible@kbin.social 50 points 1 year ago

I apologize to everyone I’m about to insult but lemmy users generally behave like redditors. People generally don’t write comments with relevant information in order to have them passed over. It can be frustrating, especially when the rest of the comments are repeated jokes or could be summarized as alternative articulations of “this.”

[-] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yes. unfortunately the behavior modification sticks with them. I recall seeing some submissions with pictures of text as well 🙄

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[-] Endorkend@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

This.

Seriously, people, start filtering out who gets to tell you shit.

Of course, don't overdo it and create an echo chamber for yourself, block the extremes, but don't block basic disagreement.

I started doing this years ago, primarily on Twitch.

I despise copy pastas and edgelord comments, it's why I generally watch streamers that have a relatively chill and small audience.

But I do go into Kripps chat simply to fill up my block list with people that relentlessly spam chats with copy pastas and other similar sorts of comments.

Later I started being a bit more gung-ho doing the same on all platforms and it made all types of social media oh so much better.

You'll quickly notice that a lot of the comments that put your teeth on edge came from the same few loud and obnoxious people, because once you start blocking people like that, after just 10-20 of them, the comments you see are already far more palatable.

[-] Mr_Buscemi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 1 year ago

You mentioning the car thing is so true. Anytime you mention stuff about cars here, you'll get the typical comment reply using it as a soapbox platform to say how cars are the devil.

The FuckCars users are some of the most toxic people on this site. It's not even worth arguing with them.

[-] Microw@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

I get why people are anti cars. But those who want to take cars away from people who enjoy them and who are trying to behave responsibly just suck.

[-] money_loo@1337lemmy.com 16 points 1 year ago

Same thing for technology.

I had to block five tech communities because it’s nothing but “technology evil” posts and comments, and when I complain about the lack of positive feedback, they just tell me I’m ignorant to reality…which is irrelevant to me just wanting to enjoy positive tech communities…

[-] Supercharger@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

And god forbid you mention Windows. You’ll be told you’re better off dead in no time…

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[-] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

As I recall, there was a split in that Reddit community about whether to migrate here. Most of them decided to stay there on the (reasonable) grounds that they wanted to reach as many people as possible with their (IMO justified) message. So presumably the ones who came here are the dogmatic ideologues who prefer hating to persuading.

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[-] BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Haven't seen too much negativity on lemmy.ml or lemmy.world but did want to say that we have a Mechanic Advice community that's growing a little every day if you're into that stuff. It's a fetus now but will be grown in no time

Oh, and the community is https://lemmy.world/c/mechanicadvice for anyone interested!

[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

You're just gonna mention this and not provide a link? Tsk tsk.

[-] BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Didn't know anyone would be interested! Here ya go https://lemmy.world/c/mechanicadvice join, comment and post away! If there's anything you'd like to see in the community let me or someone else know, we're still figuring it out

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !mechanicadvice@lemmy.world

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[-] MagneticFusion@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago
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[-] Meho_Nohome@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago

I said something that was 100% non-offensive, non-argumentative, and non-political

This is 2023. Everything is offensive, political, and people will argue about it.

[-] SgtAStrawberry@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Now I don't like your tone. Your probably one of those people, who vote for the other party.

[-] Meho_Nohome@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, everyone in my party is perfect. Your party is the one that's full of dumbass douchewads that just want to rape children and kill puppies. Your party is the only thing stopping the world from becoming nirvana. I'm referring to the enlightened state, not the 90s band. I don't want you spreading disinformation or fake news saying that I want everyone on Earth to be in the same band. That would obviously be too big of a band to fit on stage.

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[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

My biggest complaint about Lemmy is really a complaint about me. I let myself get drawn in to multiple exhausting conversations today. Usually, it’ll be weeks between convos like that, but apparently the assholes are out in force today.

I need to remember that it’s okay to ignore people - but when they’ve decided that you’re WRONG, and won’t stop nagging you about it, it’s hard to just let things go.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 year ago

When my instance was still federated with hexbear I would see these statements that I knew were wrong but they were said so confidently. I spent ages checking through history events to confirm that I was right and their post was complete history misinformation. Then I would reply with dates and explained what actually happened and then like 10 people from hexbear would chime in saying I'm wrong and double down on the original claim.

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[-] LavaPlanet@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I got these same struggles, bud.

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[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 21 points 1 year ago

I think lemmy.ml users are pretty well behaved and reasonable. Sometimes you get a rude response, it's the internet.

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[-] nicolairathjen@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

It seems like a lot of Lemmy users are slightly radical american "leftists". This is an example of this on Lemmy.world. It seems that some users see Lemmy as a forum for politicly "left"-leaning americans, not a general purpose forum. Maybe some people prefer an echo chamber?

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Fediverse can be confusing. But your link appears to be a post on !memes@lemmy.ml not world.

Lemmy.ml and lemmygrad, as well as the Lemmy software stack were started by leninists after getting pushed off reddit. If you don't like it. And even as a leftist I can understand that. Since leninists tend to be blind, dogmatic, and somehow more authoritarian than a large chunk of capitalists. Block and avoid the domain. If you wander into their domain and push back. Be prepared for toxicity. Just like you yourself would likely give if they wandered into your areas and admonished you.

[-] Redredme@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

"slightly".

That's being very nice. The correct word would be anarchist.

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[-] Microw@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Some lemmy instances are explicitly leftist and that's something we all just need to accept. You can block those instances or you interact with them, but it's not anyone's place to tell an instance how to do things on their own server. There are general purpose instances as well.

[-] applejacks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

that post says "Reddit has a center right bias" lmao

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[-] vivavideri@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I mean yeah, fuck cars, buuuuut, the infrastructure isn't gonna change overnight so we still need them. And while we wait for that to happen, might as well tinker with them, because it's fun.

c/mechanicadvice has been fun so far. Let me go find the link, 1 sec.

[-] vivavideri@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My n00b is showing lol I can't figure out on voyager how to link/confirm which fediverse it's on. There's also c/air_cooled_volkswagens.

Edit: I figured it out lol

!air_cooled_volkswagens@lemmy.world !mechanicadvice@lemmy.world

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[-] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Yes. Lots of communist and tankies who brigade hard.

[-] banner80@fedia.io 14 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is a bit of a darkweb corner. It's growing fast from Reddit users, but redditors are not particularly known for being the best form of the online argument either.

Like anywhere else, I'd say pick your communities carefully. And accept that a platform that is in shift and growth has a lot of potential for weird encounters. Try not to take the bad experiences too personally.

[-] gabe@literature.cafe 10 points 1 year ago

Something that takes a bit of adjustment that a lot of ex-Redditors here are yet to realize: the fediverse is specifically built for curating your experience overall. It's not meant to replicate the Reddit's everything all jumbled together experience. There technically is somewhat of a post algorithm to a degree on lemmy, but most of the fediverse doesn't have that and what lemmy has is a very bare minimum. Follow the communities you are interested in and block the ones you really can't vibe with. When more granular blocking and silencing comes especially on the admin end, it'll be more easy to utilize that curation experience as well. No one here is forced to interact with you and you aren't forced to interact with them, and if the person you cant vibe with is an instance admin or a community mod you can go somewhere you vibe better or start something new yourself instead if you have time and energy to do so.

Free yourself and block that community that raises your blood pressure. You aren't missing anything, I promise.

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[-] tpWinthropeIII@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

If downvotes are the issue, beehaw.org doesn't allow downvotes. Those folks are automatically eliminated from that. You can then just ignore the comments you don't like and it's all good. 👍

[-] Peter1986C@lemmings.world 6 points 1 year ago

A few notes though:

  • Beehaw does not allow for user-created communities. One could pitch an idea to the admins, but should not have high hopes.
  • Beehaw is planing to test (non-federated) software other than Lemmy in a few months from now, because they are growingly dissatisfied with how the software works (esp. from an admin's point of view). So if you wish to stay part of Lemmy/Kbin/other parts of the Fediverse you may wish to consider not making Beehaw your "home". I in fact made this account on lemmings.world, because I wanted to have sufficient time ahead of that in order to "test the waters" so to speak. Pre-Beehaw I was on lemmy.ml, but this was in part because there was no federation yet (making everyone flock to the biggest of ~5 instances of Lemmy that existed at the time).
[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Users can post whatever they want. But anytime mods are dicks I hope that people call them out. So that if it is something I post to I can switch to another group.

[-] Nipplecreek@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

I'm new to Lemmy from Reddit and I'm very confused about like Lemmy.world lemmy.ml. I understand subreddits the equivalent of what that is. But what do these .whatever's change?

[-] Pancito@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

An instance is more like an own reddit and not a sub.

Lemmy.world is a reddit. Lemmy.ml is a reddit Feddit.de is a reddit

Each of them act like reddit does.

But those reddits connect to each other and you have access to the content and communities of the other instances.

All those instances have several communities which are like subs

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 year ago

It's like Gmail and Outlook/Hotmail, different servers run by different people but you can talk across them

[-] yetAnotherUser@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Think of it like email (lists). There can be a !fuckcars@lemmy.world and a !fuckcars@lemmy.ml (the latter doesn't exist, but it could)

You can access both communities, subscribe to both and post to both. Their content is (mostly) identical, the only difference is who's hosting it.

There is no central authority determining the rules. For instance, Reddit can ban whatever they like and allow whatever they like. That's not how it works here. The only rules are what each community decides are their own rules. Certain communities, such as !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com no longer exist in some sort of tolerated limbo, unlike on Reddit where they could be shut down at a moment's notice.

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[-] Oka@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Some of my comments get down voted for seemingly no reason, or because I went against the "norm", but often i write a joke that falls flat.

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[-] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

Downvotes mean literally nothing here, even more so than Reddit. So I'd say don't be discouraged. And if nobody ever disagrees with you in life, you are doing something wrong.

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