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The Ministry of Justice is developing a system that aims to ‘predict’ who will commit murder, as part of a “data science” project using sensitive personal data on hundreds of thousands of people.

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[-] FireWire400@lemmy.world 111 points 10 months ago

Reminder to watch Minority Report again... I don't even remember whether that movie was any good or not

[-] Kirp123@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago

Can't believe that movie is looking to become a reality in my lifetime.

[-] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

It’s great!

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 106 points 10 months ago

Is Tom Cruise going to run the program?

Call it Minority Report

[-] aCosmicWave@lemm.ee 58 points 10 months ago

Because they will inevitably target minorities?

[-] whiskeytango@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago
[-] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Because of the early 2000's movie Minority Report that has this exact same plot and is starred by Tom Cruise.

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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 86 points 10 months ago

Hey, remember when pre-musk twitter had to turn off their extremism automod for republican politicians because they were constantly spewing the same patterns of extremist content that actual ISIS-supporting accounts were?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[-] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

I'm not superstitious, but I'm starting to think that the 30s are cursed, the closer we get to them the worse Europe gets.

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[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 79 points 10 months ago

And it will say people of lower economic classes and foreign origin are the biggest risk. Will action be taken to help these people? Nah. This is just going to be a technological excuse for some good ol' repression.

[-] gedhrel@lemmy.world 79 points 10 months ago

570 recorded homicides between March 2023 and 2024.

Data on "hundreds of thousands" of people can't provide the distinguishing markers to even have a stab at this.

It can reliably predict when people are black, though.

[-] funkajunk@lemm.ee 40 points 10 months ago

It can predict blackness with up to 63% accuracy!

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[-] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

a stab

I see what you did there 😄

[-] kokesh@lemmy.world 69 points 10 months ago
[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 months ago
[-] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 10 months ago

Precrime will have had been here?

[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago
[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago
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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 57 points 10 months ago
[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Number of subreddits banned from?....site wide, that's a lot of subreddits lol.

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Great—let’s test it on politicians and law enforcement first.

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[-] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 53 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Oh boy! ...Here we go, dropping a new Dystopia again!

So... What happens when it is wrong?

[-] WordBox@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

We find out the guy running the tool has been manipulating it and is the murderer.

[-] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Touché, indeed.

[-] jasoman@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

No it is never wrong, just super early. Just arrest people at 18 for crime they will do at 60 obviously.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Didn't they try this in Florida and it basically became officers harassing the fuck out of a teenage kid and his mom at all hours of the night?

E: yeah, fuck this shit.

[-] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 10 months ago

It's the minority report wtf

[-] _lilith@lemmy.world 46 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

hey lets feed the guessing machine crime data generated from policing by a bunch of racist ass cops. No way will the resulting "predictions" be racist

[-] TerHu@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

at first i thought your suggestion was to feed the machine racist cops to find them and got all hyped ):

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

This will only dehumanize and discriminate people that enjoy drugs or have been kicked down by society. It will never catch the people that are actual killers. The only ones that can be predicted are those kids in gangs with their machetes. But those are all a risk already.

I wonder if it will flag a lack of social care by the government as possible factor. Lmao.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

Be ready to go to jail for shit you never did, and then be forced to watch the thing you never did for your entire sentence. What do you think you'll do when you are released?

[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 21 points 10 months ago

You're assuming they'll ever release you.

[-] FireWire400@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"I'm sorry; we predicted that, if we release you now, you'll murder someone."

[-] gedhrel@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's actually the idea. It's not general precrime, it's a decision support tool for predicting recidivism when deciding parole cases.

That doesn't mean it's not on decidedly shonky ground statistically speaking.

[-] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 10 months ago

Is it gonna be a list of all the police and military?

[-] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

No silly, not after they input race.

[-] AstroLightz@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Getting closer to PSYCHO-PASS

[-] suite403@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Thought crimes. Neat.

[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago

Why are they rebooting "Minority Report?" The Tom Cruise version was excellent, we don't need a new one.

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago
[-] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 6 points 10 months ago

Was that a Black Mirror episode?

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 15 points 10 months ago

So what's the plan after that? You can't arrest people until after they commit the crime. Otherwise it gets confusing.

The UK isn't the US, the government can't just do whatever it wants and get away with it.

[-] febra@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Stop falling for the liberal trap that laws and bureaucracy will somehow magically save you from fascism. It won't. This is just the start. They're slowly warming you all up to it until it's going to be too late. There's no such thing as "This can't happen here!". It definitely can, and it definitely will if you don't organise and stop it.

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[-] noughtnaut@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It would be hilarious to see random civilians being casually followed by a policeman (policeperson?), overtly and cheerfully "nah mate, you haven't done a thing. I'm just here to watch. For now. Carry on."

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago

I think I saw a Tom Hanks movie about this

[-] WordBox@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

WIIILLLLSSSSOOOONNNN!!!!!

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