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[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago

Honestly compulsory voting is one of the best things about Australian democracy.

Trying to explain it to the yanks is just bonkers.

[-] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago

Used to be big fan but no longer, forcing somone to vote when they don't want to seems an odd thing to ne proud off. They wont make any sort of rational choice.

I read a stat some years ago that >60% of people still don't know who they will vote for as they approach the polling booth which is why we get slammed with a zillion how to vote cards. They should not be voting at all.

[-] Nath@aussie.zone 1 points 4 hours ago

You don't have to vote. You only need to get your name crossed off. You are then able to just leave if you really want.

And while those 'how to vote cards' (and their pushers) are annoying if you don't need or want them, they do help people get something close to their wishes down on the ballot.

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

I see it as giving everyone the responsibility to choose a representative. I don't think that's much to ask of citizens in a democracy. It's not like "forcing" a vegan to eat meat.

I like mandatory voting because it makes more people take an interest, and frankly I find it kind of undemocratic to try to suppress votes from people who might be less informed than yourself.

If they really object to voting they can pay the $20 fine as a conscientious objector.

I can't really respond to a made up statistic that you read somewhere. People use how to vote cards to choose preferences.

[-] dumblederp@piefed.social 8 points 22 hours ago

Also postal voting. Muricans need time off work and if they're in a vote suppressed area might have to queue for many hours.

[-] Whirlybird@aussie.zone -4 points 1 day ago

With the number of people who actively vote against their own interests because they’re dumb, I’m starting to agree with those who say voting shouldn’t be compulsory.

[-] writingslowly@aus.social 3 points 17 hours ago

@Whirlybird @null_dot arguably, not voting is a vote against your own interests

[-] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 15 hours ago

It’s less of a vote against your own interests than literally voting against your own interests. Less votes means each vote has more power.

[-] eureka@aussie.zone 2 points 17 hours ago

Why would they suddenly not vote if it became optional? The problem isn't that they're voting, it's that they don't have the class consciousness to recognise and investigate their core interests in federal politics.

From Condorcet's jury theorem, it's clear that having a few million less voters won't solve the problem, but improving the political literacy of voters can.

[-] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Lots and LOTS of people only vote because they have to, and they vote for whoever lies the best.

If they didn’t have to vote they wouldn’t, and the major parties would lose a LOT of votes, which is what needs to happen. We need independents to actually have a chance.

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

compulsory voting removes some of the apathy: “they’re both the same” isn’t as powerful to stop people (and let’s be honest here, this tactic works best against progressives) getting out to vote if they’re already at the polling place… it virtually eliminates voter suppression

[-] Whirlybird@aussie.zone -1 points 14 hours ago

I’m sorry but “voter suppression” isn’t a thing, especially when something as logical and simple as “have ID to prove you have the right to vote” is constantly called “voter suppression”.

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 10 hours ago

that absolutely is voter suppression… voter fraud is not a real problem. if it were, sure! let’s do ID… but the fact is, it just doesn’t happen: the only way to actually move the needle is large scale voter fraud, and the systems in place absolutely catch that… a single vote (as much as we say your vote counts: it does, but more figuratively) doesn’t matter 1 bit

[-] dgriffith@aussie.zone 17 points 1 day ago

AEC does a good job of nudging people into getting their enrolment details organised. I changed addresses a little while ago, and it was 30 seconds online to update, with confirmation a few days later via SMS and email.

[-] smegger@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah they have a really good system. We also just moved. Was updated in just a few mins. Very smooth.

[-] Ringmasterincestuous@aussie.zone -1 points 19 hours ago

Now if they’d only let me pay my fines in advance..

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