While I totally agree that it shouldn't be stigmatized, "psyop by the central banks" is absolute fucking lunacy and there isn't a single shred of evidence to support it.

I came back later when I realized family is important to me.

Multi generational households are known for their lack of privacy and personal agency. You could not pay me to move back in with my parents. I don't even stay with them over the holidays because it's that bad. The banks did not have to brainwash me on this one.

Me, my pregnant wife, my retired dad and my working brother all live in one house. Belgium

Can we afford to live in 3 houses? Yes.

Is it necessary? No.

The house is paid off. One house is being heated, ...

Me and my wife save up about 2500 euros per month. My brother saves up even more because he's spending literally nothing. He saves up his entire paycheck.

Building generational wealth is pretty fun. My parents worked for us. Me and my wife work for our kid. I got basically a house as inheritance in a great economy. Our kid will have a house + investment portfolio (Stoxx 600, gold/silver, ...)

Our biggest "waste" of money is traveling. I don't even have a car, just using my taxes to have a long tail e bike that does the same shit.

We have 2 cars on the property, they barely are used. Literally one is being used to drive to train station. The other one for the grocery store within 2 km. It's good that one of those two is a company car, otherwise gigantic waste of money.

Our household (my wife works 14 hours per week ATM). Earns a net income of: 9300 euros.

Include capital gains of like 4%. It becomes a total of 13300 euros net "income" per month. An e bike valued 9,5k euros. An electric car.

All because we are mentally stable enough to live under one roof.

I made 10 bucks an hour in 2007 and had a one bedroom one bathroom apartment for $475 in a college city.

Living on your own was possible 18 years ago.

Normal =/= desirable. Maybe some of you don't mind spending your life in a miniature royal court with your parents as monarchs, but I couldn't wait to get away from it.

Depends on your family.

This is less a psy-op thing than it is a product of Western society's history - and I don't mean it as in "capitalism is bad and everything I don't like is caused by it", but literally living in such individualist society makes people live or want to live in smaller groups as much as they can afford it. And it dates before capitalist rise, in my opinion.

However... I don't think living in smaller groups, like living alone or with a +1, is inherently a bad thing. As people said here, there may be multiple reasons one would like to departure from their parents' house, a lot of them are genuine and to have this option is a good thing. What I see as a bad thing is that each house is meant to be a world by its own and in some places and contexts we don't have any community bond. This phenomenon contributes to anomie in Durkheim's sense, in my opinion.

YES thank you, finally somebody says it. I couldn't muster the motivation to make this exact thought into a post yet even though the idea has been going through my head for a long time.

Of course, if every person uses their own house, you need lots of houses which "stimulates the economy", i.e. it shifts wealth from the pockets of the workers into the pockets of the construction companies, up from where it goes partially to the owner's pockets, partially to the wages. Yet with every iteration of the game the owners grab a bigger and bigger piece of the wealth, until it is all accumulated uphill. Consider:

So many reasons for parents to give a big push when the children are 18.

So many reasons children want to get out at 18.

I would need dramatically more distractions and mental health if I had to live with my parents still

10 extra... How many fucking kids did you have, and then you'd want them to all stay after they are 18???

And then turn around and give massive discounts if you buy bulk, raising the cost of living alone to almost double to that of a couple or small family.

We're going to start fetishizing "living together" now because the rent is too damn high.

Indirectly, maybe.

I also think it’s mostly just shitty parents, possibly who also had shitty parents, that forced the “hard knock life” on kids to make them “tough” and self reliant. Assuming they weren’t just regular old being abusive in some form. Being poor can also drive people out, if someone isn’t earning money in an already economically tight situation it can create a lot of friction.

Americans have a kinda messed up family life. This “self reliance” that separates the family unit and attempts to make it a standalone entity against everyone else really doesn’t reflect the way a lot of the rest of the world operates with closer family and community ties. Even not too long ago America was a lot different in that fashion. Probably WW2 and the growth that followed were the main shift.

People used to be able to do all that solo working as a janitor.

I work as a janitor and I can't even fucking feed myself all the time.

Shame my house would be pretty crowded in that situation. Although those pod bunk beds look fucking sweet and could work.

It's certainly cheaper to get the pod bunkbed that will make any child scream with excitement than it is to buy a larger house which will leave them bored while all their stuff is moved and likely move them away from their friends.

Unfortunately I can't live with my parents. I probably won't have kids, but if I do, I doubt they could afford to live anywhere else. Not unless I leave the US. It's rough here.

i love my family! the love however is at odds with knowing what its like to live in the same house as my family

Would girls still want me if I said I lived with my parents as a 30 year old grown ass man that can't afford his own place?