So your argument is there can't be any exploitation if a company is run by the state, because somehow the state is super special and distinct from private ownership?
If we switch a board of capitalist owners with a state bureaucracy, suddenly it's impossible to profit off of workers? Furthermore, it's not like the workers get control or a say over where the capital generated by their work go. Maybe it goes into social policies, maybe they go into funding a war or a genocide, or maybe they go some rich politician's 13th gold plated toilet. You don't know.
I just don't buy the argument in favor of state ownership. To the extent to which it is "socialism", nobody should like it because it just puts a new label on the capitalist like putting lipstick on a pig. The state is not a desirable element, it should not be getting all that power over the workers nor all that capital.
So your argument is there can't be any exploitation if a company is run by the state, because somehow the state is super special and distinct from private ownership?
If we switch a board of capitalist owners with a state bureaucracy, suddenly it's impossible to profit off of workers? Furthermore, it's not like the workers get control or a say over where the capital generated by their work go. Maybe it goes into social policies, maybe they go into funding a war or a genocide, or maybe they go some rich politician's 13th gold plated toilet. You don't know.
I just don't buy the argument in favor of state ownership. To the extent to which it is "socialism", nobody should like it because it just puts a new label on the capitalist like putting lipstick on a pig. The state is not a desirable element, it should not be getting all that power over the workers nor all that capital.