I cannot see any significant diffrence between the two in what they will do or what they will say, I get stern faced conman facism or laughing facism, both are facism

I mean, am not arguing who did better, I will be honest I both did not watch it, and already voted.

As for what the threat is, I cannot see a significant difrence between Trump and Harris, and there is a real likelyhood Trump wins agian, but the cause for that is that the Dems keep lurching rightword and refuse to even consider trying to move to the left, so people stop approving of them and stop voting.

Agian I am not saying polls one way or the other, but the media fact check, no WatPo is right wing owned by a bilionare, the data they present may or may not be accurate on a case by case, and I would not be suprised if high approval was the turnout here.

First Interesting topic to not answer a single question I asked you.

Um lets start here, "As a Socialist ... the only arguments I get in are with Communists and Anarchists" You split up the idea of Socialist and Communist, There that is for all practical purposes a Distinction without a difference, Redflag number 1.

Second your entire threat on Lemmygrad's Shit Reactionaries say, first with a passionate defence of Biden , because a 2 party system, There is no diffrence between the parties, and generaly Socialists do not Endorse Biden, as he is a war criminal genocidal manach who does not care for the worker. Also all the benifits you listed, he is not doing- When someone tried to explain to you how it was rediculous you mocked them with a "call biden and demand things" and when someone else tried to explain you asked for a "Realistic solution" no understanding of what is being said.- In another explination, you said you could not read a post of that size and they only wanted to mock you, then when a shorter version was given you blocked them for being mean

You have quite a few posts on trump being Uniquly bad, he is not as I said before he is not significantly worse than Biden or really any other polition.

Lots of mentioning of voting like it changes anything

You have a post saying "as a socialist american I am jellious" when talking about healthcare, with the previously mentioned I think your understanding of socialism is that its healthcare, agian You would be better discribed as a Social Democrat

From this point I could for most of these look past them, or say its because you are new and need to learn, except with the second point you refuse to learn. By this point I am only a week back on your comments, and I look at the mod log

If we look at the modlog you have been banned from a comunity for saying that both sides of the Isn'treal genocide campan are bad and palistine is doing this for revenge, without any sort of historical understanding of the conflict

Called the Ukrane Russia conflict a holly war, I mean, one side is fighting to stop imperal expantion on its boarder (Russia) and the other is mostly Nazis who are doing a genocide (Ukraine)

Calling the PRESIDENT OF CHINA Pooh, This is 1) racist and 2) the PRC is a socialist nation, you can disagree with them but like, not be a total racist

And this is how I am concluding you are not a Socialist, I am sorry if this is too long for you and you refuse to read it, I did only stop after 7 days.

Look at its heart I agree with Dr.Che, If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine. Not only by your words, and I assume actions though I do not know you in real life, not a socialist, by the Standards set by the good doctor, that I also use, you are not a comrade of mine

The US does not follow their own bill of rights worth shit, and do you mind showing me where the PRC violates their own constitution please?

Taking the wealthy is not socialism, it is at best, a very mild form of social democracy. The ballance of power is not changed the owning class still has all the power as they still own the means of production.

I understand Jeasus was a passifist, and he would not have lead a violent revolution, but he would have advocated the workers runing the show, not just "taxing the rich"

With that Established I posit, that the Quality of life is SIgnificantly better, in the Peoples Republic of China

Ok? I usualy get the "pleasure" of arguing with americans ... usualy in real life" so are we going with constitutions are words on paper or infaliable documents?

I am not a centrist by any strech of the imagination, but within a pretty slim margin of error just as bad as each other. What has biden even done in his term that is a net benefit.

Remember that any criticism of Biden, no matter how legitimate, is definitely pro-trump Russian propaganda. God forbid people don’t just want to vote against something.

How the Fuck does that work, You are sauing that no one is alowed to have and air grevences of the PRESIDENT, or gosh even worse try to hold them accountable because "the other guy is Trump" Look I get it, I do not like trump either, but FFS grow up, not everyone who is complaining is pro-trump, not everything anti-biden or pro trump is russian. Trump is very much a home grown american thing, and you cannot start to adress the socital issues untill you accept that.

Also Putin himself said he would perfer Biden... or are you going to twist yourself into knots about how that means he wants Trump

Except in this case, one of them is activly aiding and supporting a genoicide, has done absolutly nothing to undo the damages done by the previous guy, acualy on many fronts increased his plans, including but not limited to the wall, the deportations, the kids in cages ECT, and has done next to nothing to punish the insurectionists.

There is no real significant material difrence betweent he 2 parties, nor between the 2 canidates,

I am not saying if you can trust him, he has motives, I am saying it is redicuolously fool hearty to assume that because he said something that instantly means he wants the oposit. Do I think he has an agenda yes, do I think that his agenda and the agenda of the United States are aligned no, but that does not mean he is going to go "You know what I will wake up to day and play reverse phycology because everyone in America is a moron" The thing we do here is he said X, what would be the reasons for his statement of X. It is unlikely his lie would be that he wants Biden when he wants trump, I could see the lie being he does not care but he thinks by saying he wants Biden it will cause an ease in relations but that is unlikely. What I think is more likely is that, and I know I will be called a "Russian Bot" or a "Republican" for this dispite the fact I am nither, is that while Domesticly the better choice we have is Biden, it is in Russia's better intersest that Biden is elected aswell, the USA is more stable under biden, and I could easily see him lieing about the mental stability of Biden, as this is a comon refrain from people in washington, but we never see it when he is talking to the public nor is it reflected in the Special Investigators Report. So taking the person who is mentaly deteriorating, and is less likely to spill everything and say the first thing that comes to their mind, therefor pulling the nation back and forth at their every wim, would be a perk for russia, who is just now starting to emerge again as a high regional power maybe entering into great power, and it would be far more dangerous for them to have a loose cannon of a USA.

or and here me out here, he is not lieing? just maybe, like you are doing lots of mental gymnastics to get to the point of he is lieing for reverse phycology and doing like a tripple bluff, when accams razer would sugest it is just he means what he says.

Note in no way am I pro Trump ... nor do I want trump to win.