I don't think that's fair at all. As I said, I only recently started to use Telegram and only encountered "MAGA communism" in the last week or so in a channel called something like: "The Marx, Engels and Lenin Institute" which was riddled with people defending "MAGA communism" all of a sudden because there was some circle-jerk discussion coming up, in which the party I mentioned (nominally "Marxist-Leninist" but believed to be run by spooks) were having their leader speak at. The group I believe is run by the same party and, being new to that platform in general, all I did was join groups which came up after searches for "communism" or "Marxism". I had only heard about "MAGA communism" on Twitter a while back before I left that platform, asked what it was and it was pretty much brushed off as a small online sect of lunatic crypto-fascists. But seeing it being given credence by a party which claims to be "ML" in the country that I live in and which runs what is supposedly a Marxist study channel, I went to prolewiki, saw the definition and joined Lemmygrad to be around people who saw it for what it was and to ask the question I did, which was whether this "movement" could go offline and have influence in actual politics. As I also said, this was the first instance of any MLs I know of in Britain even discussing the movement, which is of course a movement in the USA.
What you said is unfair - as soon as I noticed it and called it out, which led to one or two people defending me and then three or four making an effort to try and defend "MAGA communism", using distorted interpretations of Lenin's work to try and justify their defence. I left the group after sharing the definition from ProleWiki and wrote a comment condemning it and warning comrades about what "MAGA communism" really was in other groups/channels, started a channel and was then invited to join a channel which openly condemns it but which is run by a Hoxhaist which presents its own issues, but at least openly condemns this "movement". On weekends, I turn my smartphone off unless there is an upcoming event (a branch meeting, a Palestine solidarity event or whatever) but I came here to discuss the real world implications of a movement that I wasn't aware was being taken seriously and was barely known of in Britain until that party started to give credence to it (they also banned me from the various channels they run after I left the comment condemning the movement).
I can't think of an equivalent movement here in Britain/the British isles unless we include non-leftist movements such as the neoliberal, right wing "Labour" Party which has long abandoned any pretence of socialism, as I said in my post.
Making such an assumption as you did is not right and is especially unhelpful given that patsocs are clearly putting a lot of effort into invading spaces that are at least nominally Marxist/Marxist-Leninist and especially when a so-called "Marxist-Leninist" party actually jumps on the bandwagon.
This is about educating and warning people, not dismissing them because they have only just encountered such an obviously crypto-fascist movement. Frankly it was shocking and disappointing and I condemned them and all of the people entertaining them as soon as I figured out what was going on.
I don't think that's fair at all. As I said, I only recently started to use Telegram and only encountered "MAGA communism" in the last week or so in a channel called something like: "The Marx, Engels and Lenin Institute" which was riddled with people defending "MAGA communism" all of a sudden because there was some circle-jerk discussion coming up, in which the party I mentioned (nominally "Marxist-Leninist" but believed to be run by spooks) were having their leader speak at. The group I believe is run by the same party and, being new to that platform in general, all I did was join groups which came up after searches for "communism" or "Marxism". I had only heard about "MAGA communism" on Twitter a while back before I left that platform, asked what it was and it was pretty much brushed off as a small online sect of lunatic crypto-fascists. But seeing it being given credence by a party which claims to be "ML" in the country that I live in and which runs what is supposedly a Marxist study channel, I went to prolewiki, saw the definition and joined Lemmygrad to be around people who saw it for what it was and to ask the question I did, which was whether this "movement" could go offline and have influence in actual politics. As I also said, this was the first instance of any MLs I know of in Britain even discussing the movement, which is of course a movement in the USA.
What you said is unfair - as soon as I noticed it and called it out, which led to one or two people defending me and then three or four making an effort to try and defend "MAGA communism", using distorted interpretations of Lenin's work to try and justify their defence. I left the group after sharing the definition from ProleWiki and wrote a comment condemning it and warning comrades about what "MAGA communism" really was in other groups/channels, started a channel and was then invited to join a channel which openly condemns it but which is run by a Hoxhaist which presents its own issues, but at least openly condemns this "movement". On weekends, I turn my smartphone off unless there is an upcoming event (a branch meeting, a Palestine solidarity event or whatever) but I came here to discuss the real world implications of a movement that I wasn't aware was being taken seriously and was barely known of in Britain until that party started to give credence to it (they also banned me from the various channels they run after I left the comment condemning the movement).
I can't think of an equivalent movement here in Britain/the British isles unless we include non-leftist movements such as the neoliberal, right wing "Labour" Party which has long abandoned any pretence of socialism, as I said in my post.
Making such an assumption as you did is not right and is especially unhelpful given that patsocs are clearly putting a lot of effort into invading spaces that are at least nominally Marxist/Marxist-Leninist and especially when a so-called "Marxist-Leninist" party actually jumps on the bandwagon.
This is about educating and warning people, not dismissing them because they have only just encountered such an obviously crypto-fascist movement. Frankly it was shocking and disappointing and I condemned them and all of the people entertaining them as soon as I figured out what was going on.