@HelixDab2 @mondoman712 you're wrong. An actual ebike, with assist rather than a throttle really does get you to exercise because you are pedalling, but you're not adversely affected when going uphill. It's cycling, it burns calories, but it doesn't have the tiring bits.

@chiliedogg @Annoyed_Crabby cities that were designed around cars should be easier to convert as there is so much wasteful tarmac dedicated to low occupancy travel and parking.