Sounds like a plan, you can enjoy cleaning your arse with your tongue 😛
can we stop calling it iran war and start calling it usa and israels expansionist war?
Right so mixed content steam already has parental controls specifically with an allow list
GOG provides individually installed games, so you can control its access with guid
Content players pretty much all have child accounts
Even locally hosted ones, like Plex already have parental controls built-in (mostly via allow lists)
What other kinds of mixed content applications are there that already do not have some kind of parental controls implemented which are likely to actually make use of this?
I am honestly struggling to find specific examples of the types of applications which have mixed content, don't have parental controls or at least allow lists built in and are likely to actually implement this change. Again you are relying on developers to actually make use of this field, and outside of corporate applications (which imo are already likely to have some kind of content controls), I am struggling here to see why an indie developer would bother?
You do realise you can easily restrict who can run what applications (or terminal commands) by using guid? So you can easily restrict a child account being able to execute applications or games already? And you know what, this method does not rely on application developer implementing any kind of age gatekeeping using DOB field... Its generic to all distributions even ones that don't use systemd. This is why this change is dumb and not needed.
You can even use it to restrict access to terminal commands such as curl so children cannot download something they shouldn't...
In this hypothetical situation, why are you choosing to install software that does this?
Its not a hypothetical situation, it is happening, although right now to mobile phones and tablets if we stick with Russia example. Il let you envision what direction this is going to. But hey its a law. There are linux tablets out there, should maybe they add this pre-installed app?
By the way that law is there since 2025. Its pretty obvious that we should pre-emptively comply?
If you don’t want software that tracks your location, don’t install software that tracks your location. If you don’t want software that requires your real name, then don’t install software that requires your real name.
That is my plan when we know the position of other distributions, I will be moving to one that does not use systemd. My argument with this is that the reasons for this change are clearly to comply with local laws that don't affect majority of the system users. There is no need in this change to be global. It should not exist.
So when application developer such as Discord (an example) builds on top of these age controls and decides to not allow access to channels which are marked 13+?
What do you expect will happen?
According to the guy doing birth date pr, we should pre-emptively comply, so yeah... how about enforcing bans on promotion of LGBT propaganda that has been law in Russia since 2013? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_Russia#National_laws
The law subjects Russian citizens found guilty to fines of up to 5,000 roubles and public officials to fines of up to 50,000 roubles.[citation needed] Organisations or businesses will be fined up to 1 million rubles and be forced to cease operations for up to 90 days. Foreigners may be arrested and detained for up to 15 days then deported, as well as fined up to 100,000 rubles. Russian citizens who have used the Internet or media to promote "non-traditional relations" will be fined up to 100,000 rubles.
Oh I know, lets introduce a field that stores an array of your nationalities, so any app developer can request your nationalities and adequately fine you for spreading illegal content online if you are Russian citizen. After all you can do that using a linux machine, so we gotta identify this now too. And the law also applies to foreigners. This law has been in place far longer than California or BR one. Who gets to pick and mix which laws apply and which don't? But wait its okay its just an optional array, you don't have to use it...
Do you now see how insanely dumb this is? I am neither in Russia or USA, why should I have to put up with a censoring mechanism?
It is slippery, I have described the process UK is taken here https://piefed.social/comment/10693725
Poettering closed the pr that was reverting this age field. What happens is adding more and more control in the future to conform to whatever idiotic laws someone might make. Should we then also implement a filter for what you type online to conform with Russian law about calling their war "SVO"? Its their law after all, so why not make the rest of the world conform? Its already years older then this age verification?
Continent Thank you yes
It’s not just one law (/statute). Around a third of a billion and increasing, seems a strange quantity to dismiss as “so few people in the world”. EU alone has more population than the affected regions by a few hundred million. Why should we be putting up with this nonsense in advance? This is absolutely wrong and how does this get affected by our GDPR laws? Please don't forget that not everyone lives in a complete technocratic dystopia and we place more value on certain protections. Trying to predict when the next ludicrous right wing nonces will win and try to put through their own child molesting agendas in EU seems premature.
How long until USA becomes the new Noth Korea where you can only get 28 state sanctioned haircuts? Should we comply with this requirement too? You know its only a matter of time isn't it? (If sarcasm is not clear, I apologise for nothing)
Its very likely to not even be a real person, just another bot shilling for corpos
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I mean you can break into someone's house and steal their games... and their playstation...