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I say 'in Germany' because there's where I reside, a welfare state.

We don't have 401K here, but public retirement systems, mandatory.

My employer also matches what I put in a small state pension system up to 50 euros. Not really much, better than nothing.

What number do I have to reach for a decent retirement? Retirement age: 67 years old.

Is it enough to save or do I have to invest?

[-] schneewiese@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

you need to think about retirement savings!

do you have a number in mind?

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I don't like my job and think about reducing to 50%.

Where I work (Germany), several colleagues do that, but most of them are married women where the husband is the main breadwinner working 100%. I live alone and have to finance myself independently.

I now earn 4,000 euros brutto, 2,900 netto and can save some for retirement. If I work 50%, I'll earn half that.

I did an apprenticeship as a nurse and while the money is ok, the job is not. People say with a nursing apprenticeship you won't be poor, but what they don't tell you is how taxing it is and how you have to be a sociopath not to be criticized by management.

Looking for some opinions out of Germany.

[-] schneewiese@feddit.org 3 points 10 months ago

We also have bachelor’s programs for nursing that’s essentially an administrative add-on to RN training, with some other advanced nursing training as well.

do these nurses remain at bedside after finishing the bachelor?

But as far as the kind of patient you’d deal with, nobody can completely avoid aging patients, and trying to only see non overweight patients is both iffy and weird.

I don't have a problem seeing and giving advice to the ageing patient, his DPA (durable power of attorney) or to an overweight patient. What I have a problem with is washing and moving the overweight patient that's more dead weight than anything else, because I don't know how ratios are where you work at, but where I am most of the times I have to do that alone. And then I'm the one taking ibuprofen or calling in sick because my back hurts.

Something similar happens with dementia patients: doctors have it easy because they enter the orders for antipsychotics and neuroleptics but don't get to be punched, repeatedly insulted or sexually assaulted by the demented patient.

And this is something I don't want to happen to me regularly. I can work as a PA with demented patients, not as a nurse.

you’re only naive if you think you can escape drama lol

now at least I know what kind of stupid nonsense awaits me if I do this.

thanks for posting.

[-] schneewiese@feddit.org 1 points 10 months ago

You can expect different drama, maybe not less. I can’t say what specifically would be the case in Germany. In the US it’s mostly about balancing patient care with paperwork, and battling insurance companies.

I think this is a drama I can live with. What I meant with drama is gossip among the nurses: who had sex with whom, who has how many children, who said what about somebody else... something I hate with a burning passion.

Maybe I'm naive? I still find this bureaucratic drama easier to survive than my current coworkers.

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this happens in Germany. I know our healthcare systems are different but there are way more north American members on lemmy than German ones. I'm simply listening to points of view. What a physician assistant does is fairly the same in both countries.

As said, I'm a nurse working bedside and I don't plan to this sometimes sh*tjob for the rest of my life. I don't like dealing with my coworker's petty problems and their need to talk and criticize people behind their backs.

Reasons to study PA are I'm cerebral and prefer to read and learn than to talk, I like knowing my medicines and therapies, interpreting EKGs, explaining to patients what they should and shouldn't do, checking labor parameters to decide if we have to increase or decrease an antibiotic... I don't want to work bedside with a growing old, overweight and demented patient population (already punched twice and proposed to have sex 2 times as well). I don't want to be ridiculed by my coworkers each time I open a book to read about medicine simply because I want to know more.

Doctors where I am are usually mature coworkers. I don't mean all doctors are grown ups (they are not) but there are more grown ups among the doctors than among the nurses: nurses I work with love to talk about sex and tiktok and going to smoke whereas doctors usually talk about patients and therapies, at least most of them when I hear them.

Overall doctors seem to be less chatty with less drama and more professional, more grown up.

I know that as a PA I'm not a doctor and I'd only earn EUR 300 per month more than now as a nurse and I'm still thinking if it pays to study 3 years to earn just a bit more, not really much more but hopefully work with grown ups.

This is not something I'd pay myself but I'd have to find a hospital that offers a bachelor as a PA as a so called Duales Studium where you work 50% and study the other 50% but you still receive your normal salary, but for this I'd have to move 200 km south.

If you're a PA or plan to become one, am I being naive? Is there really less drama?

Do you regret it?

schneewiese

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