21
submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by rcbrk@lemmy.ml to c/australia@aussie.zone

Australian Senate, last sitting of the year. No idea when the Social Media Ban debate is kicking off.

If anyone's keen, feel free to give a live run-down of anything interesting in this thread.

(sorry about all the edits, just trying to get a decent thumbnail: elevated photo of the Australian Senate)

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 11 points 2 days ago

It's a wild overstep peddled in the name of "think of the children!!"

As any 12 year old with a porno mag will tell you, kids will get around this without even blinking. And the fun fact is that I, a grown arse adult three times their "acceptable" age to fuck around with the dangerous social media will coincidentally be asked to prove my age, full name, address to any comment I may make online and boy oh boy wait until I say something that disagrees with the obsidian order.

[-] CTDummy@aussie.zone 0 points 2 days ago

Wasn’t the digital ID addressed in the debate? It seems the main refutations are “it won’t fix everything immediately” and “digital ID will be enforced for everyone”. The only valid complaints I’ve heard are about digital ID which is only one of the way the government will require these companies to verify if I’ve understood the debate. I think “a small portion will work around it” is a weak excuse to avoid dealing what has been a big problem practically since the inception of social media.

[-] gila@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

The social media problem is a media literacy problem. You don't teach media literacy by shielding children from media. It's a legislative band-aid in lieu of a solution that we can't be assed to implement.

Nevermind that the purported exemption for Youtube, presumably on the basis that Youtube is useful, is not objective.Tiktok and other platforms have equal potential for usefulness - and if you don't think so, I'd challenge you to explain why?

[-] CTDummy@aussie.zone -1 points 2 days ago

The proper comment is here but I’ll quote. 

“In the future we are going to look back on seeing children use iPads that directly connect them to the most sophisticated engagement and manipulation algorithms ever as something as horrid as a child smoking a cigarette, or doing any other drug”

Are you aware of dark patterns? How’re they’re all through websites and games now? To the extent that AI now inadvertently writes websites to include because practically all data their trainings are polluted with them? Simply “educating” people out of what amounts to nearly hostile platforms and algorithms is ludicrous. I get a lot of the criticism for the bill I do. People try to pin this as people crying “think about children” and “just let parents work it out” are woefully misinformed and parent have been failing for decades now.

[-] gila@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

It's pretty bad, but the hyperbole comparison to a global leading cause of premature death is a bit over the top. Besides, as I previously addressed: this legislation will not solve the problem, neither by its intent or practical application.

The Luddites had good points, but ultimately the species continues marching forward and is better off for it.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (10 replies)
this post was submitted on 28 Nov 2024
21 points (100.0% liked)

Australia

3623 readers
100 users here now

A place to discuss Australia and important Australian issues.

Before you post:

If you're posting anything related to:

If you're posting Australian News (not opinion or discussion pieces) post it to Australian News

Rules

This community is run under the rules of aussie.zone. In addition to those rules:

Banner Photo

Congratulations to @Tau@aussie.zone who had the most upvoted submission to our banner photo competition

Recommended and Related Communities

Be sure to check out and subscribe to our related communities on aussie.zone:

Plus other communities for sport and major cities.

https://aussie.zone/communities

Moderation

Since Kbin doesn't show Lemmy Moderators, I'll list them here. Also note that Kbin does not distinguish moderator comments.

Additionally, we have our instance admins: @lodion@aussie.zone and @Nath@aussie.zone

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS