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[-] aski3252@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

We were talking about normal user stuff that normal users do, not "seriously advanced stuff".. And I agree that most normal users probably don't want to use terminals because they are not familiar with them. But normal users probably don't and shouldn't do "seriously advanced stuff", no?

Yes, if you are trying to do "serously advanced stuff" (whatever that means), chances are you will probably need a terminal (or a terminal will at least be easier), but you shouldn't be doing "seriously advanced stuff" unless you know what you are doing anyway...

[-] Noobnarski@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

I just wanted to install steam, but it wasn't in the package manager list.

Then I tried apt-get and that didnt work, I forgot why.

You don't have to do seriously advanced stuff on linux to run into issues without using the terminal.

My point was, even if you actually do some advanced stuff on windows you still don't have to use the terminal.

It's not realistic that you don't have to use the terminal on linux if you want to do any more than web browsing and some text editing, etc.

That doesn't mean that linux is bad, but let's be realistic about what it is.

[-] Avatar_of_Self@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

To install Steam on most distros with popular DE's, you click the software store to open the software store. If Steam isn't listed in the front page then just click the search box and start typing Steam.

When you see it, click the install button.

When it is done open it by clicking the Open button or pressing the Windows (or Super) key and type Steam. Click it when you see it.

[-] aski3252@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Even if it is, for whatever reason, not part of the repository you have installed, you can still go on steam's website and download the package from there.. In other words, the worst case scenario is literally the same experience as you would have on windows..

[-] aski3252@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I just wanted to install steam, but it wasn’t in the package manager list.

Maybe you used Debian, which only allows free software in their default repo? But then you won't be able to just install it with apt either. But even if it is not in the repository, you could still go on steam website and download the package from there, so literally the same experience as on windows..

You don’t have to do seriously advanced stuff on linux to run into issues without using the terminal.

Like what?

It’s not realistic that you don’t have to use the terminal on linux if you want to do any more than web browsing and some text editing, etc.

10 years ago, or maybe even 5 years ago, I would have agreed with you. Not anymore though, not if you use a half-way beginner friendly distro..

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

That experience is highly dependent on the Linux distro you're using. Steam comes preinstalled on gaming-centric distros like Nobara or Pop!_OS. More "general purpose" distros like Mint or Ubuntu might require adding an apt repository before you can install steam from their GUI package managers, but adding an apt repo can be easily accomplished with a GUI as well.

Basically, if there's no guide for installing steam for a given distro, or the process of installing steam is more than a couple easy steps, that specific distro probably isn't well suited to run steam.

[-] Tin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Weird, I would expect Steam to be in the Ubuntu repos (assuming that's what you were using, since you mention apt), but maybe not. As for apt, or apt-get, they are just the terminal equivalent of the GUI package manager (synaptic? it's been a minute since I ran ubuntu), so if something isn't in the repos, apt at the terminal won't find it either. If it's not in the repos, you should be able to download and install steam from the website just like you would in windows. It gives you a .deb file which will launch just like an executable installer in Ubuntu. But to your point, yes, sometimes things in linux take a little extra thinking to get to work. Getting accustomed to the way Linux works can help overcome hiccups like this. Windows has many quirks as well, it's just that if you use WIndows often you know your way around them.

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