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Anon should've showered more often

[-] jerakor@startrek.website 190 points 2 weeks ago

Middle school kids he mighta done nothing wrong at all. Those kids at that age are terrors and will oust people from a friend group for the dumbest reasons imaginable.

Sucks because that person may have done everything right and years later still can't trust people or open up to them.

[-] kwomp2@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 weeks ago

If there is even just a chance that others wouldn't understand, let alone disapprove you associating with kid X, you can accomplish 2 things by ousting them: 1. You get rid of the potential disapproval (wich is mostly just insecurity) 2. You help an ingroup getting rid of unambiguousness, by drawing/strengthening the border to the outgroup, while with the same move placing yourself on the inside.

I work with kids, and so far I think this is the objective rationality behind most or at least many acts of cruel exclusion.

The only long term, non authoritarian solution is the kids developing a moral compass, that makes violent exclusion more important to them than short term insecurity-management and of course beeing less insecure. (Plus the "weird ones" often have fluffin interesting perspectives)

As we can see in comments like "shower more" even many adults didn't recover from the competitive-acceptance-bs other kids/their parents/ this fucked up society gave them.

Ok hol up. I had to read this 10 times. Reads like AI

Are you saying you think kids are quick to push otherness away because they themselves are insecure? And as a bonus, alot of them don't gain confidence even into adulthood?

[-] hex@programming.dev 32 points 2 weeks ago

I'd just like to say that I didn't find it read like AI personally

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I agree, this does not at all read like GPT

[-] hex@programming.dev 6 points 2 weeks ago
[-] kwomp2@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago

Haha yeah sorry I'm sick and kinda slow rn.

Yeah basically that's what I said but I also tried to describe the rational of being mean and contextualize it in a broader mode of socialization.

This is to not just go "kids are brutal" but add additional understanding, which in turn is meant to help forgiveness (in a sense of reducing hurt) and see the involvement of social order (competition does no good to hoomans).

You know, like the kids are alright but society isn't yet so they aren't. This sucks but doesn't have to forever.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly. Most bullies bully others because that's how they feel more secure about themselves. Most of them live in broken homes, so they're used to being pushed away, so they push others away.

The immediate solution is to stand up for yourself. The longer term solution is to befriend them, which can fill that hole they've been trying to fill with bullying.

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