415

Mitch McConell says the quiet part out loud.

Exact full quote from CNN:

“People think, increasingly it appears, that we shouldn’t be doing this. Well, let me start by saying we haven’t lost a single American in this war,” McConnell said. “Most of the money that we spend related to Ukraine is actually spent in the US, replenishing weapons, more modern weapons. So it’s actually employing people here and improving our own military for what may lie ahead.”

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/4085063

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago

It's amazing how much they support imperialism when it's "their people" doing it.

[-] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

That's because you don't understand what imperialism means. US/EU capital is looting and exploiting the former socialist block and controlling it through western capitalist media, NGOs, and military bases. That's imperialism. The Russians preventing Nazis from doing ethnic cleansing along their border and demanding not to be threatened with a gun to the head is not imperialism.

[-] mim@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Funny how living standards in the ex-soviet countries have improved considerably since joining the EU, but that has not been the case for the ones that chose to be kept under Russia's sphere of influence. 🤔

Looks like the EU is really bad at looting, they should learn from Russia.

[-] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago

There was a massive dip in all those places in the 90s with shock therapy. A lot of people are still worse off in a lot of ways and angry. Hence AfD, Orban, PiS and all those other angry nationalists.

Also, if you want to be fair, you should compare for example Poland to west Germany. Polish workers toil for German capitalists, and yet, somehow, they're getting exploited way more than the German workers. Less pay, worse services, worse infrastructure, less worker's rights. That whole arrangement is super-exploitative. Meanwhile foreigners bought most of that country. Treated like a colony basically.

The Russians got fucked even worse than Poland in the 90s, which resulted in a backlash which Putin made himself the head of. What Russia is doing is self-preservation. Any state with the means to preserve it's sovereignty from a hostile takeover would try to do so, it's not just something an imperialist state would do. Hence Russia is not doing an imperialism here.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

Hell, compare East Germany to the ~~reich~~ West Germany. West Germany's economic conquest of East Germany was incredibly ruthless and brutal, and East Germany never recovered from having it's entire economy pillaged and burned.

[-] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And east german lgbt rights and women's rights lost half a century of progress during reunification.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

Yeah. It's still technically illegal to get an abortion in the reich afaik. It was really something finding out that the gdr had gender parity in most fields before the west crushed it, and that western germany had to give women a bunch of rights to try to manage to political turmoil.

[-] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Reading those east German men be like "yeah I prefer it now that women have to stay with me for economic reasons, before you had to be like, interesting and care about them or something" really drives it home in a different way too.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

That was physically painful when I first saw some of those quotes. We've just lost so much potential.

load more comments (25 replies)
load more comments (34 replies)
load more comments (39 replies)
this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2023
415 points (90.6% liked)

World News

32315 readers
1109 users here now

News from around the world!

Rules:

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS