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How did CO do that? Free lunch in school? This does not seem to be something you can do by having more virtuous people.
Coloradans typically live a very active lifestyle. Outdoor recreation is a huge part of people's lives. Therefore they're moving a lot more and typically thinner
Ok, but what makes them this way. All of their neighbors have above average obesity.
The outside be nice and shit.
Also decent accessibility and cycling (compared to the deep red states)
Eating like a normal person doesn't mean eating disorders. I just don't eat a lot of sugar and I make fresh food.
I physically feel bad when I eat to much junk. Healthy food makes you feel better as it doesn't spike your sugar.
You might not have an eating disorder but some people you know might. Many people with eating disorders don't know that they have them or even convince themselves that they don't even when provided obvious evidence that they do.
Fat shaming just tells people they only matter if they're thin, and doesn't discriminate between healthy weightloss and eating disorders that could kill them. Fat shaming just makes the world less healthy because it encourages disordered eating and poor relationships with food.
I think fat shaming doesn't make anything better.
However, offering health options is not fat shaming.
You might think you're "offering health options" but in reality it's just unsolicited advice which no matter the subject is almost always unwelcome at best and counterproductive at worst.
It's like if I told you to backup your computer or run a virus scan on your computer. Yes it's good advice for good maintenance tasks on any computer but you know just how likely those tasks are to fix whatever you're dealing with on your computer at this moment, and if that's advise you really needed you need much more information than is provided to actually meaningfully use the advice. If your unsolicited advise is only a sentence long, it's too vague to be useful to someone who needs it and to anyone else it's unhelpful and belittling to assume they don't already know that.
TL;DR "offering health options" is a form of fat shaming
I'm not the one offering healthy options. It is more of a cultural thing to offer healthy items when possible. When I travel to some states it is hard to find fresh food.
Plus sugar and salt make exercise unpleasant
Get out and go for a hike. That will help immensely.
I'm wondering what bias there may be for people from a place versus moving to a place. Many have noted the culture of activity in Colorado, and that may be pulling non-obese people from other states to Colorado. Not that it would sway the numbers that much, but as an anecdote, everyone I know in Colorado moved there from a different state and fit, and moved there for activities.
High elevation makes the body work harder because there’s less oxygen. Elite athletes train in the high country for the effects.
Only for a short period of time. You adapt and the effects go away since your body creates more red blood cells.
But then those athletes go down to sea level for a competition and have an advantage
For a few days as your body recycles the extra red blood cells
Yup. Go to high elevations, and until you acclimate you'll feel a little off. Go to low elevations, and for the equal but opposite reasons you can run a marathon and outdrink anyone.
Altitude is an appetite suppressant.
The trend of altitude being inversely correlated with obesity rates is really obvious from county-level data. That trend persists across multiple countries, but the specific correlation varies from country to country, in a way that suggests that rich countries have a stronger inverse correlation between altitude and obesity.
Today I learned….
Haha. What’s interesting is there’s other high country in the US but it’s not green in this map. Wyoming, Montana, Utah, Idaho…
And with the exception of vermont and a small part of NY, most of the yellow in the northeast is low lying areas not very high above sea level. California has mountains too.
That's why the county level data makes the trend that much more obvious, because the states tend to clump big groups together. Here's an example.
There, you can see that Colorado is special in that its rural counties tend to be low obesity, compared to even its neighbors in the Rockies. You also see a sliver of green following the Appalachian Mountains.
And obviously it isn't the only factor. Poverty is really important, as are lifestyles (and the intentional and unintentional features of any given community in incentivizing or disincentivizing things like walking, regular exercise, eating healthy, etc.).
Oh yeah, it near perfectly captures where the mountains are. The green areas are mountains and cities. NH is interesting, the darkest part is where the ski areas are, the lighter part is the more populated area.
Are you sure it is not the other way around? Maybe the driven people who are physically fit are moving to higher elevation. If someone is obese they probably aren't going to move to rual mountains
Culture of healthy thinking plus a lot of athletics