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Ron DeSantis Proposes Unprovoked War on Mexico (prospect.org)

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[-] style99@kbin.social 59 points 1 year ago

Before anyone calls this hyperbole:

Ron DeSantis recently suggested that he would be open to ordering drone strikes on Mexican drug cartels and migrants, whom he accused of carrying drugs over the border. “We’re authorizing deadly force. They try to break into our country? They will end up stone-cold dead,” he said, and he’s not alone. Trump, Reps. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) and Mike Walsh (R-FL), Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR), and Trump’s former deputy secretary of homeland security Ken Cuccinelli have all proposed various military actions in Mexico, up to and including sending in ground troops.

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 32 points 1 year ago

He gets off on cruelty. I guess his time inflicting suffering at Guantanamo wasn't enough, though.

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Why would anyone ever want the commanding officer of a torture prison to run their country?! What do they think he's going to do?? It drives me crazy that anyone would want this, let alone even be okay with it.

[-] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

One of the biggest states in the country has already elected him right up to his term limits too.. We're absolutely fucked as a country

[-] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yikes.

DeSantis is trying to run to the right of trump. Recall that trump began his 2016 campaign by saying

”When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. […] They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people”

I suppose advocating for war crimes is one way to campaign to the right of trump on border security.

Granted trump also campaigned by calling for war crimes back in 2016, so this isn’t entirely novel for a GOP presidential candidate:

The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families. They care about their lives, don’t kid yourself. When they say they don’t care about their lives, you have to take out their families.”

But on the other hand, DeSantis was a navy lawyer at Guantanamo tasked with making sure the soldiers followed the law. And we know how well that went.

As a young navy lawyer, the Republican was posted to the notorious prison camp. What he did there – and his role in the investigation of three deaths – remains controversial

In summary, when it comes to their policy on war crimes among the top republican candidates for president, Trump talks a big game but DeSantis has the actual experience to back up his “promises”.

The fact that I could quickly write up this analysis with sources is a damning indictment of these candidates, their supporters, and their enabling political party. What a fuckin’ shitshow.

[-] Gsus4@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And to think somebody can be such a fucking idiot that they make Trump look almost normal. Is this some sort of trick like in France, where Zemmour's antics were used to make LePen more palatable? Looks like it.

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

And they think Mexico will just be ok with us drone striking homes that these idiots think are cartel hideouts? These racists fucks would glass all of Mexico claiming anyone brown is cartel

[-] nan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

They would relish Mexico trying to defend its sovereignty as a chance to destroy another country and show the world how big their ego is.

[+] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world -38 points 1 year ago

The libs are pro war for aiding Ukraine, but in the same breath...?

[-] fear@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

Are you really pretending there's no difference between assisting a country in defending itself from an aggressor, and starting your own war as the aggressor?

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

My comment is calling out republican hypocrisy in calling the left pro war, not literally making that point.

[-] Gsus4@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sound comment, but unfortunate ambiguous meaning got punished by people who gave you no leeway. In reddit I got a 3-day ban for something like this. Lemmy for the win.

[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Russia and their ilk are the only ones that are pro war in Ukraine. Libs are pro Ukraine, which involves defending them from the Russian invasion. If at anytime, Russia agreed to (and actually did it) pull all troops including the land they stole, almost all libs would be happy.

On the flip side, DeSantis wants to start a war and be the aggressor. Support of that is fucked up and deranged, which is why a large number of conservatives support it.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm pointing out republican hypocrisy in calling the left pro war and also wanting to invade Mexico, which was the implication with "in the same breath."

[-] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Pretty sad that there are so many Pro-Russia shills on this site that this seemed like the least likely interpretation of your comment..

[-] lingh0e@lemmy.film 11 points 1 year ago

Are you honestly that confused? Do you really think this is some kind of gotcha?

Russia invaded their smaller neighbor for a made up reason.

DeSantis is suggesting invading our smaller neighbor for an equally made up reason.

We don't like either scenario. I would be just as supportive of Mexico getting military aide from other nations as I am about Ukraine getting military aide from other nations.