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Reason I'm asking is because I have an aunt that owns like maybe 3 - 5 (not sure the exact amount) small townhouses around the city (well, when I say "city" think of like the areas around a city where theres no tall buildings, but only small 2-3 stories single family homes in the neighborhood) and have these houses up for rent, and honestly, my aunt and her husband doesn't seem like a terrible people. They still work a normal job, and have to pay taxes like everyone else have to. They still have their own debts to pay. I'm not sure exactly how, but my parents say they did a combination of saving up money and taking loans from banks to be able to buy these properties, fix them, then put them up for rent. They don't overcharge, and usually charge slightly below the market to retain tenants, and fix things (or hire people to fix things) when their tenants request them.

I mean, they are just trying to survive in this capitalistic world. They wanna save up for retirement, and fund their kids to college, and leave something for their kids, so they have less of stress in life. I don't see them as bad people. I mean, its not like they own multiple apartment buildings, or doing excessive wealth hoarding.

Do leftists mean people like my aunt too? Or are they an exception to the "landlords are bad" sentinment?

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[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah sorry, I guess I'm just tired of this shit.

And I really meant that genuinely, I do remember being that naive... I remember making the exact arguments that person is making. Since then, another decade or so of life experience has informed my positions.

This is the big lie that they tell you in order to put up with the constant exploitation of living in a capitalist society.

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Based on the average age of Lemmy, I'll go out on a limb and say I'm probably older than you.

What you call "informed positions" is simply giving up on seeing the reality over the propaganda. Your cynicism doesn't allow you to separate the theory of capitalism from the reality of capitalism. You're essentially no different than those people who say that anything except the current situation is essentially "socialism", which by definition must be bad. But just because corporations have taken over capitalism, doesn't mean there isn't a fight to be had to try to change that.

I'm very close to 50 years old. I've got plenty of my own life experience that I don't need any of yours thanks. If you want to give up, go right ahead. Some of us believe is a system where capitalism is contained by strong government regulations and social safety nets. Why do we believe this, because there's plenty of European countries that already do this. Just because North America is completely bought out by corporations doesn't mean that's just what capitalism is.

Go be a sad sack defeatist on your own time.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Y'know, I think all I needed was getting yelled at by an old person. I'm a capitalist now! Exploit me, daddy!

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Glad I could help.

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