You need a VPN for everything when it comes to pirating. (kbin.melroy.org)

submitted 1 day ago by Nyxicas@kbin.melroy.org to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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Let's not turn this into what the Reddit subreddit of Piracy has turned into and that's an endless sea of questions that are all the same - "Do I need a VPN?".

And the loud and vocal answer to such a question is - yes. Yes you do need a VPN for pirating. Nobody gets a VPN for casual use and I'm under the impression that VPN services know a lot of people are going to be going to them for pirating and not just accessing content out of their country. And it's for that reason, is why I'm skeptical on entrusting my activity with the bigger VPN names available.

I use ProtonVPN myself, by the way.

Pirating under your raw IP address, only will set you up to get pegged by your ISP whether it's in a short time or a long time. I've only ever gotten one single ISP letter in my entire 26 years of pirating and it was simply because I downloaded without a VPN. Well I was also downloading off of someone else's network to take the fall, but I was confronted about it either way.

And I've gotten away with so much pirating because of my careful cautiousness when it comes to pirating. That and this applies to the United States, but the statue of limitations is 3 years when it comes to copyright infringement. So, good fucking luck to any ISP or so that wishes to try and nail me for something I downloaded 10 years ago, but I digress.

But a large part of me avoiding so much does contribute to having a VPN. So, yes, VPN is required. Please don't ask anybody in the pirating community 100 questions that are all just ways to ask whether or not you need a VPN. You do.

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[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 17 hours ago

I work for a VPN company. There may be many shitty VPN companies that do keep logs, but not all of them.

You just need to pick the right ones, ideally audited ones.

Also, VPNs are absolutely required in some countries if you're using public torrents. Even if they're not required in your country right now, you're still advertising that you're doing illegal stuff if you don't use one.

[-] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 15 hours ago

you're doing illegal stuff

Strong assumption there. It is only "illegal" because Disney said so?

[-] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 7 points 12 hours ago

If the mouse comes after your ass unfortunately yes they do kind of get to decide what is and isn’t legal. A lot of it depends on your country’s relationship with the US.

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 14 hours ago

In most jurisdictions, piracy is illegal no?

[-] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 9 hours ago

Most doing heavy lifting here is my point.

Is it most tho?

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 22 minutes ago

I'm not sure. When in doubt, use protection right? I know at least a couple where it is illegal

[-] ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 2 points 14 hours ago

I work for a VPN company.

So, you understand how things work then right? Or are you being hypothetical?

In most jurisdictions, piracy is illegal no?

No, it's actually embraced by communities such as this sprouting up. Are you a caveman or something?

[-] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 2 points 10 hours ago

No, it's actually embraced by communities such as this sprouting up. Are you a caveman or something?

Not the same guy, and I don't mind piracy at all, but being embraced by a community doesn't make something not illegal.

That's very much decided by the law of the land you live in, and in most lands it's classed as a form of theft or copyright infringement, which is illegal.

Also, bit rude to suggest he's a caveman for making a perfectly valid point

[-] ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 0 points 4 hours ago

in most lands

Well in that sense you're breaking the law of your land by commenting on such a forum since we're on the high seas here if you didn't notice?

And no, I didn't intend to be rude if you're inferring that but it's blatantly clear what this forum is for and them being employed by someone who purports to protect their privacy selling such a service but then feigning ignorance

In most jurisdictions, piracy is illegal no?

if "it's illegal", is telling.

[-] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 2 points 3 hours ago

Well in that sense you're breaking the law of your land by commenting on such a forum since we're on the high seas here if you didn't notice?

I'm aware of where I am, as I said before I have no problem with piracy - my main point was that just because we're fine with it, doesn't just magically make it legal - which is what you were implying.

And no, I didn't intend to be rude if you're inferring that but it's blatantly clear what this forum is for and them being employed by someone who purports to protect their privacy selling such a service but then feigning ignorance

Feigning ignorance of what? That it's probably not the greatest idea to be flogging around your actual IP address while doing potentially illegal/unlawful activities?

From my PoV, @PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de wasn't feigning ignorance, the question was a retort to a non-sequitur. One's view on the validity of laws (i.e. only being illegal cause Disney said so) doesn't change them - I've seen enough "Sov Cits" find that out the hard way to not make that stupid mistake.

[-] ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 0 points 2 hours ago

From my PoV

That's the thing - it is legal. Whether you're in a public library, torrent swarm, or on the high seas. Makes no difference if you want to play by every law; of every land.

You could be there all day playing whack-a-mole but ships cruising by don't really care since that bounty is shared already.

[-] ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 2 points 15 hours ago

lol, likes porn eh?

https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/en/peer/

I love these labels and torrenting porn is so noobie it's not even funny, and don't most use Bing for that?

[-] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 2 points 3 hours ago

Is that for @PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de's IP?

Cause if they're working for a VPN company and recomennding you use a VPN, surely they must be using a VPN themselves

[-] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

How is this guy seeing users IP addresses?

[-] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 3 points 3 hours ago

That's part of why I asked, cause I'm sceptical they can see it in the first place, never mind that's its probably not Potato's actual IP given how much they're advocating VPN use

[-] ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 1 points 1 hour ago

It's nothing like that :D

Once you're in a pool like I was above, you get websites that collate this data. But the thing is is that "IP pool" was also shared with someone else hence it showing me "liking porn", even though I never touched these mofo's

https://files.catbox.moe/u2odnu.png