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[-] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 39 points 6 months ago
[-] anamethatisnt@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago
[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 6 months ago

They still tie it to your ID since you need the phone number.

And we just trust them not to share your social map to NSA which they totally don't do. Trust me bro

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The NSA already has your social map from Apple, Google, Facebook/whatsapp, plus a hundred other sources you've given access to your contacts in the past decade.

Even if you've never used any of those, or given any app access to your contacts, 99% of your contacts have.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 5 months ago

Data is about as good as it is current though and many people are reducing their exposure to these parasites

A person can now pretty easily go without logging into any of these apps with a few adjustments.

Hence why signal relationship maps will be even more valuable going forward. Hence my theory about signal...

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm not getting you.

There's correspondence, there's metadata, and there's phone-ID relationship.

Signal still protects #1 and #2 better than #3. And the way it works, infrastructure load is much bigger than for most other messaging platforms. So it makes total sense they limit registration somehow .

I'm not sure I remember by now what I've read about Signal protocol, but I think the fact of who messages whom they don't have, so it's not just trust.

~~Anyway, if you've read about 90s' mixmaster servers for mail, while Signal developers don't approve of alternative clients, there are libraries and it's possible to make some kind of a mixmaster bot. ~~

I've left this, because it's funny as a good illustration of why they don't want alternative clients, among other things - because I've described a voluntary MITM.

[-] explore_broaden@midwest.social 0 points 6 months ago

They still don’t have backups on iOS which is a deal-breaker for me.

[-] toothpaste_ostrich@feddit.nl 0 points 5 months ago

Why would you use iOS if you care about privacy?

[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Why would you use iOS if you care about privacy?

Because it’s far better for privacy than any Google-Play-Services-ridden version of Android, and sometimes in life you don’t want to have to deal with custom ROMs anymore.

But also that’s an exceptionally dumb question, because the implication is that privacy can’t matter to people who don’t go to the same precise lengths someone else does.

[-] toothpaste_ostrich@feddit.nl 0 points 5 months ago

Honestly, my problems with Apple go beyond just the privacy issues.

[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Fair enough, Apple has some pretty fucking terrible anti-consumer behavior. Privacy is just one of the few things they do well.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago

After Signal's lie about dropping SMS support because of "engineering costs", I really can't believe anything else they say.

Plus the app experience sucks, it's no better than SMS.

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