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Why is there a bike lane on a highway?
To be clear, I'm not taking the side of the driver. Fuck people with unnecessarily huge vehicles. I side with cyclists almost 100% of the time. But this just sounds unsafe.
To me, a highway means speeds in excess of 50mph. That isn't a place where we should have a body unprotected sharing the road.
In some rural areas, the "highway" is literally the only way to get from point A to point B. Many businesses and homes are directly on the highway. It's not the same as Interstate 5 which is a few miles west of there.
Unlike a freeway, which has bigger speed limits, a highway is just any road designed for high traffic. It still has intersections, traffic lights, and driveways into properties.
Repeating from another post, but thanks for the clarity. Grew up in a place where these words were interchangeable.
You think maybe there's other reasons bar revenue traps at play here then?
Maybe even if it's not a school zone there could be reasons you might want to limit car speeds that have nothing to do with revenue traps is my point
Braking really isn't that hard in a car and it's not like you lose a meaningful amount of time doing the speed limit for a podunk town. This entire argument can only begin to make sense with a lot of carbrained entitlement
Bikes are fine on highways. On freeways that are enclosed and its impossible to roll onto ground or terrain probably not, which is why freeways have rules against it.
In California, if there is not a parallel alternative route for bicycles to take, they are allowed on the freeway. Many parts of the 101 freeway fit this exception. State highway 130 (look it up on google maps) is a favorite of cyclists. It is a two lane state highway with a 40 MPH speed limit. for most of its length, there are no shoulders. In many places, the white line on the edge of the lane is also the edge of a vertical cliff. There are places where I have seen an SUV in front of me with one wheel on the white line, and the other on the double yellow line because the lane is so narrow. The road is so winding that there are very few places where you can even get to the speed limit, let alone exceed the speed limit. But bicyclists love it because it was built to allow horse drawn wagons to haul heavy loads to the top of a 4000' peak, so it has a very gentle grade, and there are great views along its entire length.
Huh. I use "highway" and "freeway" interchangeably. Just did a search and found the following, so thanks for enlightening me:
I guess maybe this is a result of my having grown up in a midwestern state where both could exist without distinction. TIL.
im not even american so maybe my definition isnt applicable for you.
I think some rural states don't, and they even allow horses and pedestrians.
In Kentucky some freeways have signs saying "no horses on freeway". I always took that to mean there were some freeways that allowed horses.
We live in such a strange world.