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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/23598266

Summary

Key leaders of the “Abandon Harris” movement, which encouraged voters to oppose Kamala Harris due to U.S. support for Israel during the Gaza war, are now expressing unease about Trump’s incoming administration.

Many in the movement, including prominent Muslim leaders, voted for Trump hoping he would bring peace to the Middle East.

However, concerns are growing over his Cabinet picks, such as Mike Huckabee and Tulsi Gabbard, which some see as troubling for Muslim communities.

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[-] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

So you have decided that the people suffering a genocide don't get your help because of how people who "advocated for it" behaved? Literally punishing people who did nothing wrong. You are not obligated to, of course, but as a moral stance it fucking sucks.

The people who advocated for it that I saw (including myself) tended to say "this terrible policy will lose Harris votes, she should change it." And they were right. The people who fucked you over were the ones who told you it would all be fine because Trump is worse and apparently because they thought the American electorate were super logical?

Blame the people who's fault it actually is. The people who misjudged how the policy would affect turnout. And the people who actually support Trump, of whom there are way too fucking many.

Furthermore, even if I wasn't this bitter, it wouldn't matter because there's literally nothing I can do now.

There wasn't much you could do anyway, unfortunately. But it's the same now. You can advocate. Vocally support BDS. Biden didn't care anyway and Harris said she would continue to support Israel.

Obviously I agree that you should prioritise, but it seems a little silly to turn your back on something I'm sure you agree with just because the DNC fucked you by ignoring voters and losing the election to Trump.

Imo if you're resisting Trump you're all on the same side.

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 5 months ago

just because the DNC fucked you by ignoring voters

In a democracy, the responsibility for deciding who holds the reigns of power lies with the voters. I'm blaming everyone who voted for Trump and those who discouraged others from voting for Harris.

[-] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

And you're punishing the Palestinians for it, for some reason.

Trump is an embarrassment worldwide. And the DNC lost to him twice. If that can't get you to criticise them I don't know what will.

Blame the voters to some extent, sure. People are stupid. But it's the party's job to win the votes. If that wasn't true why campaign at all?

[-] knightly@pawb.social 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The voters can't be blamed for the lack of choice they were offered. The fault lies exclusively with the people who have real agency in this situation, the parties and their billionaire donors.

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