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the us is an authoritarian state
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this post was submitted on 10 Jan 2025
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OP is not even defending (or accusing) USA in that thread. Their only comment there is
They're only highlighting the mod's hypocrisy. Everything else is assumption.
And the deal applies to the user that the mod is screeching at:
Even if you agree that USA is authoritarian (IDK if the user in question does), the argument in the OOP is bloody idiotic, it's on the same level as "2+2=7 lol thus whales don't fly lmao". And it is a strawman because it mischaracterises why people say that China is authoritarian.
What hypocrisy? It’s not called AntiAuthority.
It’s idiotic in that it ignores Xi’s 50 years of being involved in the party, and the power he’s head since before he was Gen sec. I wouldn’t call it a strawman, although it’s a pretty selective interpretation.
The mod is denouncing authoritarianism from a government, while being themself authoritarian. It is hypocrisy.
And, even if it wasn't hypocrisy (it is), what random@blahaj said there would be simply a false accusation against the mod. It does not imply that they're defending USA.
It is a strawman because it mischaracterises why people claim that China is authoritarian. It has zero to do with Xi being head of state for eight years; it has to do with the one party system, plus censorship.
(OOP could have capitalised on that to claim that USA is authoritarian, without being a strawman. They didn't.)
Mate, they’re not a bloody fucking government themselves are they? Talk about 2+2=7 alright…
And it’s not a strawman, it’s not in response to anyone. It’s at blurst whataboutism.
The morality of authoritarianism does not "magically" change depending on who does it; it's still the same outcome, only in a different scale. If one is bad, the other is also bad. And someone doing what they denounce as bad is hypocrisy.
And you could bring up a thousand more arbitrary restrictions like you already did twice, like, "it isn't hypocrisy because today is Friday lol". It still won't change shite dammit.
And, as I already showed, even if your insane troll logic was valid (it is not), it doesn't defend the bullshit/assumption/lie that OP was defending USA.
You're being a bloody muppet and odds are that you know it.
What I said is not false, let alone evidently false.
Yeah, because that community and the post totally exist in a vacuum. They are totally not addressing what people often say, that China is authoritarian. Right??? /s
Nope.
Whataboutism is a diversion tactic. It would be whataboutism if OOP used that argument to divert attention from China into USA; they are not doing it, the central theme of the community is USA.
In case someone complains about the wall of text: Brandolini's Law.
It does change when it comes to voluntary spaces. Their instance is like a club, it can impose its own rules on itself it’s not hurting anyone. A state imposing rules affects everyone and it’s damn hard to move.
You cannot begin to compare state oppression to Lemmy moderation.
You: "ackshyually the comm isn't AntiAuthority"
Me: [shows that it doesn't matter]
You: "ackshyually they aren't a government"
Me: [shows that it doesn't matter]
You: "ackshyually it changes when it's a voluntary space"
You're changing the goalposts again.
You: "elephant shit is not mouse shit. Thus mouse shit is not shit".
To be blunt I'm not wasting my time further with you.
Listen, you and I know you’re not that stupid, so stop pretending to be.
Apparently you are.
You think it’s fine to go into a community to harass it, yet complain when you get banned.
You act like it’s totally fine to go into these spaces and be a dick, because you believe its hypocritical that they treated an online community differently to a fucking nation state?
Stop pretending to be a fucking dickhead, you can clearly see what Op did was wrong but because you don’t like the community you think it was okay to be done.
How did they "harass it". You still haven't managed to explain that. The person the mod replied to never said the US is not authoritarian. They can disagree with the mod and still think the US is authoritarian. Stop being a dumbass and defending another dumbass.
By going in there and being deliberately inflammatory and antagonistic?
Shit even this fucking post has lead to that community being bigraded by dumbcunt dickheads like yourself.
And they fucking deserve it, so I hope they enjoy their comeuppance. What are you gonna do about it, bitch some more?
Their comeuppance for running a Lemmy community?
Grow up you insufferable little fuck.