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End the Imperialist Blockade
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this post was submitted on 10 Jan 2025
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It's a very common insult, so it's difficult to address directly. When analyzing an insult, you have to analyze why it's insulting. Why is it that sexual acts based on service specifically are common? Because the service aspect is primary. They specifically didn't say I was "railing Castro" or anything, such an accusation implies dominance and manliness, in a way, while being submissive is shameful. It brings to mind the historical treatment of women as subservient to men, and the historical classification of homosexual men as "feminized."
Consider it this way: why would someone not want to be accused of sucking someone off, vs being accused of being a loyal dog? Where is the distinction? The latter focuses on dehumanization, the former focuses on sexual hierarchy, misogyny, and homophobia.
I think submission is the point. Like kissing ass or cucking, the analogy is meant to express subservience. One-sided sexual favors fit the bill.
The problem may be in determining which submissive acts are appropriate for all sexual preferences.
Submission is indeed the point of the insult. When going into a conversation with the intent to insult based on subservience, the manner you present it determines the source of the insult facor. The message "you are submissive" isn't insulting by itself, so the necessity is to twist it in a manner that hurts. Sexuality is, in its modern form, pretty impossible to detangle from notions of shame brought out by homophobia and patriarchy, hence why I am against it wholecloth.
That’s fair. I appreciate you taking the time to explain your perspective in good faith. I’ll keep this in mind when referencing submission from now on.
No problem, thanks for listening!
Now only ~8 billion more to go. Lol
I'm far from the first or only feminist. I didn't come up with this in any way.
I meant we have a lot of people to educate. I’m pretty sure this isn’t common knowledge, at least for the 6.8 billion heterosexuals.
Not yet, but we can get there.
Just to be clear, they're not actually being sincere. They're even back to defending homophobia elsewhere.
Thanks for letting me know.
What are you talking about? I am completely sincere. Read the whole thread. I didn’t understand Cowbee’s perspective, and challenged it. It took a while, but I now understand the position. I’m going to make a conscious effort to remove sexuality from my submissive analogies based on Cowbee’s insight. Don’t minimize that. This is how people learn.
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