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I wouldn't say their opposition is always bad faith neo-nazis, but the anti-vegan/anti-PETA movement definitely has a few bad seeds they should be burning out. There is no reason to combine ethical meat-eating with neoconservativism. It's bloody stupid.
Lmao why is this comment downvoted but the one saying that most people who dislike PERA are neo-nazis is upvoted? Tells you a lot about how out of touch people on here are.
Because it's actually true. A LOT of the narratives come from the worst people. It's like with greenpeace, there's plenty of shit to dislike them for, you don't have to make shit up but more often than not that's what ends up happening. You don't have to support someone to point out that their oppositions are literal nazis. Basic dialectics.
I think dismissing an entire opposing view point as Nazis is one of the lowest forms of discourse there is, and unfortunately it's very pervasive on Lemmy.
I don't know if it's naive teenagers or just a lot of out of touch people with fringe views, but it's worse than reddit sometimes.
The fact that they aren't should tell you everything that you need to know.
So I should discard my own far-left views because I see a far-right group with that one same bullet point?
Let's try it on you. Here's some info about growth of veganism in the alt-right. Ready to support small time ranchers yet?
I don't like veganism because it's libshit, personal responsibility bullshit that tricks people into thinking they're making a difference. Am I even remotely surprised that moral superiority shit is taking off in the alt-right? Not at all. The instant they started going after minority groups for eating traditional foods is the moment it stopped even having the façade of being a leftist movement. It's basically diet greenwashing.
Frankly, I think it's just an honest mistake. I wouldn't call it "libshit". Veganism carries all of the hallmarks of the things I dislike about the Religious Right, religious zeal bleeding into policy decisions until "I think it's immoral" becomes "the world will fall apart without it".
I see no difference between that and the "sex before marriage ruins families" attitudes, or some middle-eastern countries' reasons for banning alcohol. Etc.