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People are on edge. There's basically a nazi president - or near as makes no difference. Now is not the time for hair splitters to shine, you know?
MentalEdge is right though, it's a constant conversation that has to happen under a more even power dynamic - and deplatformimg actually does appear to work, given past examples.
Why is now not the time? If it's now a lot of them comes out the woodwork it's now you have a chance to change their mind or at least argue the other side so they hear opinions that doesn't align 100% with their own.
A good example from some influencers recently is asmongold and hasanabi.
Asmon had some opinions about Israel/Palestine that were pretty aggressive. Instead of ignoring him Hassan had a multiple hour long conversation with him and at least to a degree, managed to change asmongolds stance.
Had he just said "nah I don't talk to people with that opinion" , nothing would have changed..
This is the crux of the matter. Actual nazis don't engage in good faith, and so it is harder to get people to trust in your good faith when actual nazis have all the power. The lines have been drawn for us, whether we act like it or not. If you're able to pick your battles so well that you never engage with bad actors and you're able to find common ground, that's amazing. But you can't go around expecting everyone to have an appetite for going out on a limb to split hairs with you, when many more people are more focused on protecting themselves from bad faith arguments.
I kind of like splitting hairs. It's a god way to hone my opinion on things.
If people don't want to do that they can just not respond to my comments.. It's not like I'm spamming posts or attacking people. I don't understand how I deserve to be banned for that.
You probably don't. I haven't read the thread but from what you've told me it isn't really a surprise. It's just part of the rich tapestry of the fediverse.